Mookie Betts Forum

"myrke - regarding deGrom, he's currently 187 on the list with 1607 SO over 1326 IP for an impressive 1.21 radio of strike outs per inning.  His biggest fault is that he hasn't seen the amount of game time as those above had seen."

Yeah, he seems quite far off. He gets the unofficial 'dominating for his time' mark, but indeed, he needs to rack up some serious innings if he wants to make his possible admittance unquestionable.

We had Nelson Cruz discussion on this topic last spring. Anyone think he could get in? Kind of like DeGrom....had a late start and then went crazy for a few years...huge numbers in power categories but thats about it...

I don't think so with Nelson Cruz.  To me a "DH-only" guy should really be special to get in.  David Ortiz or Frank Thomas power-wise or Edgar Martinez or Harold Baines contact-wise.  I think Cruz is just a tier below that.  If he was even a decent fielder, maybe he'd be in the discussion, but for a DH only I think he comes up short.

In fairness to Thomas, he wasn't a DH-only type. He spent a good part of the first part of his career at first. Wasn't the greatest defender, but he went out there. The % of his appearance in the field are more than Martinez though

Baines should not be in the Hall...

I love talking Hall of Fame. Here's a few articles I've written recently on active players:

Future Hall-Of-Famer Cards: Sure Thing Hitters

Future Hall-Of-Famer Pitcher Cards: Sure Things

Active Major League Hitters Who We Think Are On The Baseball Hall Of Fame Path

These 6 Active Major League Pitchers Are Borderline Hall Of Famers

if you like Colon, a guy that pitched until he was 45 as a starter, racking up a few wins per year after age 35

then .... maybe you like John Franco, a guy who pitched until he was 45 as a reliever, racking up a few saves per year

when Franco retired in 2006, he had the 4th most career saves with 424, and the 3 guys ahead are HOF [Rivera, Hoffman, Smith]

chvlDm wrote:

If you like wins and longevity, consider Bartolo Colon & CC Sabathia

If you appreciate closers,... Kenley Jansen, numbers similar to Kimbrel(already mentioned)

I really agree with the Greinke call, he is really fun to watch.

Jamie Moyer might as well be in as well...

I love reading articles like these.  HOF discussions from a card collecting perspective are extremely interesting. 

Thanks for sharing.

Yes, I'd love to see Franco in but I thought the original poster was just talking about active/recently retired players.   If we're talking about players from all eras my list would probably go on for days.  If you look a my profile under favorite persons those are players I think should be in HOF, and those are just players active in the 70's onwards.  

abide wrote:

if you like Colon, a guy that pitched until he was 45 as a starter, racking up a few wins per year after age 35

then .... maybe you like John Franco, a guy who pitched until he was 45 as a reliever, racking up a few saves per year

when Franco retired in 2006, he had the 4th most career saves with 424, and the 3 guys ahead are HOF [Rivera, Hoffman, Smith]

chvlDm wrote:

If you like wins and longevity, consider Bartolo Colon & CC Sabathia

If you appreciate closers,... Kenley Jansen, numbers similar to Kimbrel(already mentioned)

I really agree with the Greinke call, he is really fun to watch.

Thank you for reading! I enjoy writing these...glad to hear people find them enjoyable/useful.