General Forum

I would think as lildog7 said the gaming cards which have duplicate backs I hope people wouldn't waste their time scanning the backs.  Was actually curious if there was a mass upload for those edge cases but I guess just adding the back doesn't help anyone anyways.

I would also think that a scan of a reflective card that looks bad which can't be helped is better than no scan at all.  I know those have helped me identify card differences a few times and I was appreciative of it.

Person 1:  "How's your day going?"

Person 2:  "Terrible. Worst day in quite some time."

Person 1:  "What's going on?!?!?!"

Person 2:  "Well I collect sports cards, and I use a free online database to track my collection."

Person 1: "Ok, I'm following"

Person 2:  "Well it seems people are point farming, and I'm not happy about it.

Person 1:  "What is point farming?"

Person 2:  "It's where you only upload one side of a card, usually the back, in an effort to generate points".

Person 1:  "What are the points for?"

Person 2:  "Not sure I know the answer to that.  But they add up, and it's troublesome."

Person 1:  "Ok, Hey--I'll be right back! (never returns)

The site makes it a point to display the total amount of cards listed and total images added, and it's displayed right where you login.  I upload a lot of back images, and I like to think I'm contributing to the growing number.  I couldn't care less about points. Sometimes, I even go back and upload the front image when I get the card, and it's nice already having the back image loaded.

Pesonally, I load images so I don't have more than 4 or 5 pages of "Cards in your collection missing images on the site".  

  If you uploaded the front and back when you aquired the card, you would have ZERO pages of, "Cards in your collection missing images on the site."

Point farming is apractice I have spoken out against many times but Admin allowsitso I gave up the argument.  My issues with it are:

When someone comes along and uploads a whole set of images for a set just released "because he knows how", it does not allow new members to practice their scanning ability and gain the points to get to higher permissions. Yes, some permissions need a certain amount of points to attain.

In some sets, MOST of the backs are the same so in ignorance, point farmers load all the backs. But some of the newer sets such as MTG started having some cards that had images on both sides and not the standard back. Because of the ignorance of the point farmers due to not owning the cards, Admin then had to remove the images that were in error. (Yes,one can replace any image but I refuse to leave credit to the point farmers for their ignorance.)

Some parallels look like they have the same back but not always. And related companies (Topps & OPC) use the same images but the paper is not always the same, OPC often having a "whiter" paper noticeable on the back. There is a non-sport set on the site that have all of the wrong images because some ignorant point farmer uploaded the same images for both the Topps and OPC sets. I created a thread about it; someone closed it all out in his own rude ways and to this day, it remains the same with only the #1 card having been removed (it actually clearly stated "Topps" or "OPC" on the front of the card). I was told that I would need to submit an IR for each and every card to have it fixed. Highly unlikely that will ever happen.

So, point farmers, keep harvesting those points.  One day you might be able to trade them in for a bigger ego.

Wrong, bud.  They get entered into the database first.  Most of these cards were "Acquired" in the 90s (pre database).

Site points allow members to have more access to making edits in the database. Some of us consider it a priviledge to be able to help. Others simply use it for their own personal agenda (whatever agenda that may be). I have also spoken out against point-farming. Admin has laid out details in another thread (which might no longer exist) but he was clear that images from one's own card is the best method for obatining scans, while obtaining scans from other sites (including blogs and ebay) is fine. However, obtaining images direct from the card manufacturers is NOT fine (they are usually mock-ups and are not the same as the actual cards that are produced).

We may not like the methods some people use to add images to the site, but as long as they are correct for the card in question (and are scans, not photos), Admin has said that it's permissable. 

I'm going to add in the fact that Admin DID change the rules a few years ago to limit "point-farming". Back Scans only earn 1 point now if you don't add the front scan at the same time (or are the one that adds it later) instead of the 2 points that were awarded when I first joined the site. I am guilty of "point-farming" before that was even a term on this site. There is no reason to not upload my back scan for every single version of the card when they are exactly the same! I always upload the front scan as soon as I acquire that card anyway. Yes, my initial extra back-scans were for the points but only to get me to the level where I could make all kinds of changes for the site to make it better. I couldn't care less about points now since I am where I want to be with permissions. Look at the Top-100 Members and I'm in the 50's now after being as high as 20th at one time. I just don't care about points on here. I'm just in it to help the site now and to continue cataloguing my collection and traders. I do have some more cards that I need to scan to add on here and clear out my lists of needed scans. BTW, I don't mess with anything released in the past few years as I've bought none and rarely get any in trades. The ONLY problem I have with "point-farmers'" is when they don't do it right. Mock-ups and pictures are NOT allowed and when the card has an SN on the back, don't smear the CL's with incorrect scans.

There is a non-sport set on the site that have all of the wrong images because some ignorant point farmer uploaded the same images for both the Topps and OPC sets. I created a thread about it; someone closed it all out in his own rude ways and to this day, it remains the same with only the #1 card having been removed (it actually clearly stated "Topps" or "OPC" on the front of the card). I was told that I would need to submit an IR for each and every card to have it fixed. Highly unlikely that will ever happen.

Pretty sure all those images were cleared out a long time ago but you continue to b*tch about this.

April 8 they were still there and nothing was done about them then. Did you just have them removed now and then trying to make it like I am wrong? You were the one who messed it up when I first brought it up "because you know more then the rest of us".

And the use of foul language is not allowed here even when veiled with an asterisk. Oh, but we don't prosecute the memberss of the clique.

Bruno, after you mentioned it to me on 5/22/2022 in a PM, I put in the IR to handle the removal of all images. On 5/4/2022, Admin introduced the New Feature of "Remove All Images", for situations where something like this happens. That is how this was able to be handled without IRs for each card. Prior to 5/4/2022, that was the method required to remove all images in a set (I can't begin to tell you how many IRs I personally entered because of this, and how much time this has saved the resolvers by having this tool).

I would've expected you to check before making a post such as this. It's been more than 2 months.