General Forum

To me, just because cards were not sent does not mean it was not a negative trade experience. If I was strung along for months with unfulfilled promises I would feel that is a trade experience worth documenting.  If that is not meant to be done in the forums then feedback is the only remaining avenue.

If the member has a history of such actions, all the more reason to ensure your experience is documented so others do not suffer the same fate. 

Again, just how I would feel. Every person's tolerance for being shagged around obviously varies. 

Thanks, now I don't have to write this. Exactly my thoughts on this matter.

Sandy, you said why bring it up again? Fine. Did you even bother to read my question? Etiquette. I was asking for some advice, sorry for asking. I usually keep to myself, and try to enjoy cards. Yes, I didn't send my cards because of past history and what I've read but tried to give him a chance. Just because the cards were exchanged shouldn't mean neutral feedback. What if he had a few cards I needed to finish a set and I had members here who wanted them? Then I have to say I'm sorry, they're pending in another trade. So then I wait. And determine what amount of time it will take before I have to count this as a loss, plus lose the needed cards from that trade plus the others I had to reject. Some people here need to realize that everyone is different in just because it doesn't matter to you doesn't mean the same for some of us. So excuse me for rehashing a post.

I did read your post and answered your question seeking advice "If you already had bad experiences with him and you know of his trading habits, then either do not Accept any trades with him or if you do Accept a trade, request him to send his cards first.  If they never show up, then just leave it alone.  No need to start another thread about it so people can rehash their own experiences.  As for Negative feedback, I don't see why. You never sent your cards; the other member did not fail to meet your expectations, so leave it alone."

If you were looking for approval to leave Negative Feedback then just go ahead and leave it; don't ask the community for approval. I personally would not leave any feedback as I stated in my first answer.

But your initial post hardly hid the identity of the member in question as we all know who you were referring to. I knew who it was by the end of your second sentence. And bringing up the same issue repeatedly discussed in the Forums is not necessary.

As for cards involved in trades that may or may not get completed, I fully recognize the problem. But this was not mentioned in your intial post. If you want advice on this, I would say keep it as a consideration when deciding to accept any more trade proposals from the individual in question.

A suggestion to solve all these problems,

If "a person or" individual or any individual really maybe who is having a organization issue, could find the cards he/she wants to trade before he/she sends a proposal then no need to worry on where the cards are. I think a better option and to encourage organization.

I think this strategy might help solve alot of hassle for anybody who may have a organization issue.

In a way it is a negative experience to the OP as it wasted time. And I see no harm asking the community advice. But at the same time encouragement for organization. The OP did not call him/her out directly nor was not mean to the individual. Now there is always a possibiliity that it was sent and lost in mail, slow transit. etc

But also at least there was no loss to the OP So moving on might be best. However, if new people to the forums come it might be good to know of the possibilities that others speak of.  

As a newer member on this site. 20 completed transactions. I ALWAYS puul my cards befor e sending a proposal or accepting. Just how I roll. 

I only had one trade go sideways on me. Sent out cards Media Mail with tracking. I know I shouldn't have used Maedia Mail. It was my third trade and didn't know better. The USPS lost the cards. I started a missing mail search. They were found the oppisite direction from where the cards were going. I'm kinda embaressed that they still didn't reach the recipient. (Shame on me). 

I guess my point is that the trader should pull the cards first before accepting. If you have multiple offers, it gets a little crazy!

Thanks for listening,

Jeff

Maybe I should not say any more but:

You asked for some level headed advice.   Advice was given, some with why they would do it that way.   The advice was at both ends of the issue.  There is no need for you to explain what or why.  Just do what you feel is right for you after reading the advice.

As far as the etiquette part.  There a many postings about etiquette on the site dealing with many issues.  I could list a lot of them but do not want this posting to become a long rehashing of other issues.

This is correct:  Some people here need to realize that everyone is different in just because it doesn't matter to you doesn't mean the same for some of us.   This goes for all issues not just this one.  So we should not take thing personally when someone say what they thinking about an issue.

Yes it would be great if everyone was organized and all their cards listed and would verify before making offers or accepting offers.   It will not happen in this world and we all know that.   Again this is another isses that has been gone over many times.    Yes the isses will keep popping up as members do not look for old postings about them.

enough said

Well what I am about to say about said intended member won't go over too well for some of you. I opologise to that member. In my case we have been communicating about our trade, he said the cards were sent and lost in the mail. After I finally got a tracking number by chance of seeing it in the foroms, I have able to see some of the delay wasn't his fault. I left him positive feedback because his part of our trade was delivered. I will give this member credit where it is due.

My advice is to do what I just did Move the trade to unfinished (Same situation) and just either block him or decline any future offers with out looking at them. Other than that don't overthink it. No point in leaving feedback as neither party is out cards. I am sure every one active knows who the trader is and can either avoid or trade with at their own risk.