General Forum

dave, there is already a clear difference between graded/raw cards...in same screen you saw all the high prices the ungraded are at top of screen and graded are further down at bottom of screen.

we have not heard from the person you named yet, but I bet he was entering graded examples but did not fill all fields correctly...

just a guess though

mark

I enter a lot of pricing everyday either based on what I paid or see in the eBay sold listings. 

Someone mentioned limiting entries to one per card per day. I spend a lot of time entering multiple prices on the same card in an attempt to make the pricing here reflect current value based on eBay sold listings so I’m not a fan of limiting entries per day.

Someone also mentioned showing pricing based on a 3 or 6 month period. Good idea but a lot of pricing would get wiped out. Unless someone here entered a recent price there would be a zero value assigned to the card used in their example.  I’d rather know someone paid $100 bucks for it at one time than have nothing to reference.

Members  who have reached a certain level here can remove submitted prices. I will never have enough points to reach that level since I don’t scan or do other large point activities.

My last point is that more people need to put some time in to correcting things if possible when they see something. If you see a 2016 Donruss rookie card that someone paid $8 for back in the day and the guy has done nothing in his career, you can probably find a sale on that card for .20 or so, so take the time to correct it. If you see members abusing the system send some examples to admin and he can wipe out that persons pricing if it truly is an issue. 

Insanity abounds in the card world! Just look at the prices for the now infamous 1990-91 Hoops Mark Jackson card. After years of being listed as 10 cents on here, now the median is over $33. Yes, artistim added all the double digit prices, but even Beckett has jumped the card to $25 BV! After over 30 years of collecting, I go by my own knowledge to determine values for cards. I know what I'm willing to pay or accept for cards and I also know a really good deal or completely crazy price when I see one. I don't pay much attention to the prices listed on this site.

This is probably a crazy idea. but couldn't we set a bottom line price for all cards, 1-click price, then go back and update more expensive cards individually. Kinda like Sportlots w/ $.18 as your low price [we could stipulate any low price.] We could also use a flag, marker, etc to indicate cards that have been updated recently, 3 months , 6 months etc. All this could be found on the sets page, you might even be able to initial it as the pricer [or maybe each member be assigned or apply for a #code specificly for you]. So, as an ex. I'm working on 1990 Donruss Baseball, I go to pricing, enter a low price, click- every card is now priced with that figure. Now I go back and update any others...stars, RC, ERRS, VARS.  I enter my code, notes, flags, markers and submit.  ADMIN could rework our pricing page to include all new features. Better - more accurate prices. An idea 

Any price I add is what I sold the card for on either ebay but more than likely COMC.

The only thing I don't like about this idea is that is still gives the user flexibility to put in whatever price they want for any of the cards. So while you could update an entire set faster, it wouldn't really solve the problem of allowing members to input ridiculous prices for any of the cards they choose to (unless I mis-read and there's something there with that user code that could prevent that).

It's unfortunate that for every member who honestly goes and finds accurate prices and keeps things even, there are others who take it in a different, extreme direction. Bob's idea would certainly help with probably 90% of the late 1980s/early 1990s sets and their common cards, but not so sure about other sets/hgihi I think Mark Z. might be on to something - it's definitely possible to input a graded value for a raw card and vice-versa very easily on here.

When viewing prices for cards on this site, you can see who submits what price. Perhaps a flagging system like has been mentioned a couple of times is the way to go. If a price is reported as x% higher than the other averages, it goes into a review area where the price must be approved by two Level 8's and/or Admin. If a member has a consistent history of inputting ridiculous prices with no basis for them, they could be suspended from inputting prices for x amount of time.

I’m only a level 7 since I don’t do any high point activity here, but I’d be happy to be part of a pricing approval team. I’m on disability and can only spend so much time on an actual computer, but I have lots of time available to do something like this from the comfort of my recliner on my tablet or phone.

That's another option that could also work - a committee who can also do it. My only concern would be that if it's a small group of users (say, only a few) they could get overwhelmed. But that would be up for someone else to hash out - I'll leave it with the idea

I like the idea of a price approval team where inputs sit in a waiting to be approved state until a team member can review them and then release or deny them.

It would seem to me that unfortunately if you want to weed out the bad information you have to have gate keepers.

Throwing this out there, too - a practice done by various members that I have dealt with. Some members, including me occasionally on a few higher end cards, update their Trade List to include condition, and price is adjusted accordingly, and for the most part they're very reliable comparing it to the market, taking into account current sales prices on the various retail outlets and those that have been sold. There are some who post the condition but leave the price as TCDB's system dictates.

And, don't forget that TCDB's system already is set up to input information including price with grading, but I don't know if that's included in the median price shown on cards.

I've been on both ends of the trading scenario where pricing for cards has become an issue that got resolved in a trade by receiving or sending additional cards to balance it out. I think most of us know that any Albert Pujols card will be valued more than a Julio Lugo card. And we work well together with that understanding whether their cards are priced or not.