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Lugnut80
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Saturday, June 13, 2020 2:00 PM | |
I agree if they are truly random we shouldn’t bother trying to document the different boarders. But if they had a handful of boarder templets they used then they may not be random. And maybe the boarders are tied to the back variations. I’ll start going through my cards tonight and see what I can see.
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Sportzcommish
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Saturday, June 13, 2020 4:23 PM | |
Actually, it's not entirely random, BUT it may be extremely difficult, if not impossible to distinguish it logically as was done for '91 Donruss.
Here are two examples that I found last night before Dan asked us to stop until further instruction:
- These are #16 (Whitaker) and #17 (Smiley) and you can tell the same pattern is there with these two
- These are #30 (Alomar) and #32 (McDonald) and they are the same pattern: (By the way #31 that I had didn't have the same pattern):
So there is some structure that is identifiable, but do we have the gumption to do it - my personal opinion is that it'll require more of a committment (time, effort, energy, etc.) than what was done for the '91 Donruss. I think also that it'll have to be a full committment to do whatever is needed.
These examples were from an Inc. batch, but the same type of distinguishable patterns with the Inc versions.
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edk
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Saturday, June 13, 2020 4:48 PM | |
The card Dan showed 3 of. I have one of either the left or center patterns with and without the period and the other with just one of the variations.
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vrooomed
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Saturday, June 13, 2020 5:30 PM | |
Out all day, and come home to see the discussion. :)
I have about 40 of the Tommy Herr DK cards. the patterns are very noticable, yet impossible to put into words what the differences are.
Now the other thing that was brought up here is the repetition of patterns across multiple cards. I guess then the question becomes: Howe many unique splatter patterns are there? Is it something like 10, 20, 600? It all comes down to which rabbit hole do you want to explore. :)
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edk
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Saturday, June 13, 2020 6:53 PM | |
I just grabbed a box and found #s204-209, 210-215, 216-221 showed 3 differing patterns with 6 cards in a row in each group having matching patterns. I have 10-15 of each card that I used to compare.
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edk
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Saturday, June 13, 2020 7:23 PM | |
One thought I had was that cards are intended to have a particular splatter pattern Except if they are DP cards as in the #21 Tommy Herr then a second pattern could/would appear depending on where it was placed on the second sheet, Then the Factory Sets have yet another pattern.
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Lugnut80
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Saturday, June 13, 2020 7:29 PM | |
So far I've been through 50ish cards with at least 4 copies of each card. Oddly enough the only pattern variation I have found is the Tommy Herr DK that Dan posted a picture of. I have a mix of inc and inc. that have the same pattern
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edk
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Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:48 PM | |
I am through most of what I have, light on the DK w/o dot, Has anyone looked into cards running in groups of 6 with the same borders? This may help determine the DP borders. Also on the higher numbered DP cards I am not finding differing borders so I am thinking that the lower numbered DP's were inserted into the high number sheet layout creating a different border on only the lower number DP cards. Any thoughts on this?
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Sportzcommish
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Wednesday, June 17, 2020 2:40 PM | |
Ed, I thought about this last night as we were entering what we had; is it possible to make a pseudo layout to determine the borders? I'm really unfamiliar with the process, so excuse the question.
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Follow my blog - I Identify as a Card Collector. “Aslan didn't tell Pole what would happen. He only told her what to do. That fellow will be the death of us once he's up, I shouldn't wonder. But that doesn't let us off following the signs.” - Puddleglum in The Silver Chair by C. S. Lewis
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tapone2
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Wednesday, June 17, 2020 2:53 PM | |
Good afternoon, I went thru all of my 90 donruss and noticed that each player had his own particular splatter pattern. The next player in line did not have the same splatter as the previous one. I honestly don't think they were trying to have the same splatter for everybody. I did have 3 players cards where there were 2 different patterns for the same player. They were card 2, 45 & bc-22. I'm sure there may be more but I don't think the whole set was supposed to be the same. Also on a side note I think I know what I want my baseboards to look like when I paint the next time. I also have pulled out all the cards I have without the period after inc
Edited on: Jun 17, 2020 - 2:56PM
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