Wander Franco Forum

I have mentioned this in passing on a couple other forum posts, but I haven't received much feedback from the members here.  It is possible that what I mentioned wasn't actually seen.  So I figured I would make an actual forum post about this.

I am curious to how the TCDB should properly list the 2021 Bowman's Best Wander Franco and his 2022 cards like the 2022 Topps Wander Franco in regards to the "RC" label here on the database.  Currently, we do not have a "RC" tag for the 2021 Bowman's Best, but we do have the "RC" tag for the 2022 cards.

The 2021 Bowman's Best card does not have a RC logo actually on the card, but of course that has never been how we determine what a player's rookie card is.  The Bowman's Best card by all of our normal parameters seems to actually be his RC and the 2022 cards are not.  I even saw an article from a very well known entity that they are only considering the Bowman's Best card his true RC.

I know we do not follow everything that this well known entity does, but this one seems to make sense to me.  

Should we here at the TCDB be listing Wander Franco's 2022 cards as RCs?  Or should only the Bowman's Best be given that RC tag?  As of right now I don't think we have them listed properly under our own guidelines unless there is something that I am missing.

Thoughts?

2021 Bowman's Best Baseball Forum | Trading Card Database (tcdb.com)

When it comes to baseball the official MLB/MLBPA RC logo is how we determine the RC note for major release base set cards.

Since 2006, MLB and MLBPA controls what players are rookies and gets their official RC logo.  Every year they send to Topps their list of players eligible to have the RC logo on their cards.  Topps is the only card company authorized to use their RC logo.  If there is no RC logo on the card then the card is NOT an RC per MLB and MLBPA rules.  Also, Panini does not have authorization to use the MLB RC logo and is why they designed their own unofficial logo and put their RC logo on any card they wish to.

If there is no RC logo on any of Wander's Topps brands cards, then he did not meet MLB nor MLBPA rules for RC status and it doesn't get an RC note.

I feel and sense a copy and paste..... 

I did a little digging, and I found this interesting.

Wander was in a set in 2019 - Bowman Sterling - which consisted of half the set being tagged as RCs - Wander's was NOT. Neither was Jo Adell's card from that set. Jo Adell's RCs came in 2021. Jo was called up to the Angels on 8/4/2020.

Wander was called up to Rays on 6/22/2021, which probably was not in time for the 2021 card releases that he was in to be deemed a RC. Obviously, since niether player had been in the majors yet for the 2019 Bowman Sterling set, neither was eligible for the RC tag. So that means that the Note2 added on the 2021 Bowman's Best card is inaccurate - it's NOT his first appearance in a major release - he was in this 2019 Bowman Sterling set - which had to be a major release if there are RC Notes in it.

Therefore, the hobby has said "implicitly" that the 2021 releases were before he was eligible for RCs, and that only 2022 cards of Wander will be RCs.

Just so I understand then, we here at the TCDB are simply following the official MLB/MLBPA designtation when it comes to baseball cards as far as our database guidelines?

Yes, every time this comes up I go back to another forum where I have stated this.

Basically, it's a case of the league and the union sticking their nose where it doesn't belong, with their propaganda list.  "Forget the facts.  This is his RC, not the cards that came out during his rookie season!"  I still don't understand why this site considers that list to be truth.

2021 Bowman's Best is really a highlight set, not a base set. I wouldn't think any of the cards shold have a RC designation.