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halos17
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Monday, January 14, 2019 12:08 PM | |
I was looking through the guidelines and I did not find anything regarding the order of variations. I see where the COR should be #xxxa and the ERR should be #xxx(b,c,d,etc) and that makes perfect sense to me. Is there a standard for the ordering of VARs?
The reason I ask is that I've been woking on the VARs in 2013 Topps Gypsy Queen Minis by adding detailed notes on the VARs. In general it's pretty easy when at least one image is there however when neither image is there, I've been using the order I've seen on other sites like COMC and CardboardConnections checklists. I plan to notify any owners of these cards of the designations in case they need to move the card to one variation or the other.
In the majority of cases, our a/b order here matches most other internet sites. My question is, does it matter? Should we have a similar order as to maintain a generally accepted standard among card sites? If so, I'd obviously need to request that the images be swapped and then notify any owners of those cards of the change.
Looking for some guidance before I go any further. Thanks for any help/input.
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vrooomed
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Monday, January 14, 2019 12:26 PM | |
Be VERY careful changing things up. Generally, it's best to check with Admin before making any changes that would involve hat you describe.
When images already exist, it may simple be best to redesignate the cards as the "b" version from the "a" version (will still need Admin probably to do a re-sort), but doesn't require members having to change their collections. We try everything possible to avoid affecting collections.
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halos17
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Monday, January 14, 2019 12:28 PM | |
Thanks, didn't even consider that. That's definitely the way to go. Does the order matter though?
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C2Cigars
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Monday, January 14, 2019 12:30 PM | |
I think it makes logical sense to list the ERR first and COR second.
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halos17
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Monday, January 14, 2019 12:34 PM | |
I'm asking more about the ordering of VARs in this case. However, I do agree with you on ERR/COR cards but the guidelines seem to say otherwise:
The COR version of ERR card xxx is typically numbered xxxa. Cards with actual variations instead of errors use the VAR Note with an explanation, and are typically numbered xxxa and xxxb.
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- Rob ______________________________ Have We Traded? In a state not on the Map? Send me an offer! "Baseball gives.... a growing boy self-poise and self-reliance. Baseball is a man maker." - Albert Spalding
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sandyrusty
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Monday, January 14, 2019 12:39 PM | |
I am just reconciling my sets and that is what I see (so far). Not sure if this has ever not been the way it is done. Just wouldn't make sense the other way. You don't put the horse before the cart.
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vrooomed
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Monday, January 14, 2019 12:44 PM | |
Generally speaking, the errors are produced FIRST, and are listed FIRST. Then they are corrected, and issued AFTER the errors. I know when I worked on the 1981 Fleer error-fest, I consulted Admin a couple times along the way, and we agreed to have them listed as a / b / c for 1st, 2nd, & 3rd printings, respectively.
The only time I see "errors" listed as b or c and not a is on these modern sets where the "errors" are intentionally made.
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ranfordfan
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Monday, January 14, 2019 12:54 PM | |
Yes the ERR is the original or Version 1 and the COR is Version 2. Think of it as prototypes of Iron Man Armour LOL ERR is Mark 1 COR is Mark 2. =)
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jmiller4
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Monday, January 14, 2019 1:24 PM | |
I think he is dicussing cards with more than 1 variation. Like the 2018 update #1 Ohtani has the base card and 4 more variations. Who decides which order those variations are listed in.
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halos17
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Monday, January 14, 2019 1:30 PM | |
Correct. We kind of got off the rails there. Does the variation order matter? Do we want to be consistent with how it's listed elsewhere on other card sites? If we do want to change, then I'll make some requests to swap the card numbers. If we don't care, I'll continue as is.
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- Rob ______________________________ Have We Traded? In a state not on the Map? Send me an offer! "Baseball gives.... a growing boy self-poise and self-reliance. Baseball is a man maker." - Albert Spalding
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