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EddieLeon
Posts: 100
Joined: Nov 2018
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| Sunday, July 21, 2019 12:30 PM | |
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dicefoot
Posts: 235
Joined: Jun 2011
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| Sunday, July 21, 2019 12:42 PM | |
Hopefully this results in the bottom falling out of grading and auctioning of pieces of cardboard. Just my opinion.
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mm-11-fan
Posts: 54
Joined: Jul 2015
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| Sunday, July 21, 2019 1:11 PM | |
Great article, thanks for sharing! Further supports my motive as collecting for the fun and hobby of it, rather than as any sort of investment.
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switzr1
Posts: 6,332
Joined: Dec 2013
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| Sunday, July 21, 2019 1:16 PM | |
Get some of the crooks out of our hobby. I like it.
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I'm going to reevaluate how I collect after the new year. It's just getting way too expensive for the new stuff. Sometimes I just want to buy a pack, not a whole box or even blaster. |
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bkim
Posts: 842
Joined: Jul 2016
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| Sunday, July 21, 2019 1:58 PM | |
I see a episode on American Greed, like they did on Bill Mastro when he trimmed a T-206 Wagner, and Arkansas collector John Rogers when he sold fake memorbilia
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Robert “It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops. Today, October 2, a Sunday of rain and broken branches and leaf-clogged drains and slick streets, it stopped and summer was gone.”
― A. Bartlett Giamatti robertkimble.us/tradingcards |
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K-Cards
Posts: 61
Joined: Apr 2019
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| Sunday, July 21, 2019 2:30 PM | |
I understand the ethical and moral argument against "altering cards" within the context of the hobby, but is it actually illegal to "clean" a card? I'm wondering on what grounds the FBI got involved. Fraud, Mail Fraud, Tax Evasion?
Edited on: Jul 21, 2019 - 2:30PM
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I have begun the process of selling most of my collection on eBay (https://www.ebay.com/usr/k-lots). The rest will be practically given away. If you'd like to "rescue" a card from this fate, give me an offer. I'm currently only entertaining trades that help me downsize my collection or provide equitable cost/value for a card I will keep (see "Collects" in my profile). -Bob |
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switzr1
Posts: 6,332
Joined: Dec 2013
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| Sunday, July 21, 2019 2:57 PM | |
When Bill Mastro got 20 months, it was mail fraud.
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I'm going to reevaluate how I collect after the new year. It's just getting way too expensive for the new stuff. Sometimes I just want to buy a pack, not a whole box or even blaster. |
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Lugnut80
Posts: 731
Joined: Oct 2017
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| Sunday, July 21, 2019 5:35 PM | |
This makes me glad to be a child of the 80’s. The cards of my youth are unlikely to be altered cause what’s the point
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Billy Kingsley
Posts: 7,512
Joined: Aug 2011
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| Tuesday, July 23, 2019 7:35 AM | |
I would suggest reading the posts about the topic on Sports Collectors Daily. They are tracking the case and are providing a lot of details, the best coverage I've seen of it.
Since the problem has happened across multiple states, and was shipped using the USPS, UPS and FedEx, it's now a federal offense. For some reason I don't understand, commiting a crime in your home state is bad, but crossing state lines makes it a much worse offense. Law is not really in my knowledge base so I don't understand the whys, just the fact that it is.
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VERY slow trading due to health problems. Not transferrable so safe to trade with, just moving is painful and can't always access the cards. Cardboard History My COMC New Collection Website: Cardboard History Gallery (Still under construction) Tips on how to make your scans look like the card does in hand (No more washed out, fuzzy scans!): |
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Sportzcommish
Posts: 6,018
Joined: Oct 2016
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| Tuesday, July 23, 2019 7:47 AM | |
Yeah, not sure about the reasoning for greater severity between state and federal laws as someone's being taken in either case. I mean I don't know if civil rights come into play here, but I doubt it. (All that to say I'm clueless!)
Anyway, yeah, it's not really new stuff as those guys Billy referenced have been reporting this for some time. The news media has finally started paying attention to it.
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Follow my blog - I Identify as a Card Collector. “Aslan didn't tell Pole what would happen. He only told her what to do. That fellow will be the death of us once he's up, I shouldn't wonder. But that doesn't let us off following the signs.” - Puddleglum in The Silver Chair by C. S. Lewis |
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