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Any one have a check list i have  2 cards graded they are 

Johnny Bench #KH

Phil Esposito #13H

Havnt looked online yet to see if there is one.

I have complete decks sealed decks for Arnold Palmer & Lee Trevino and used to have an order form that listed of all the players represented on the decks.  I'll see if I can find it.

I just uploaded the first page of an advertisement that lists all of the players who had decks issued (planned?) in the first run.  It's awaiting approval, but should be live in a day or so.  It also confirms an initial release date of World Series/October 1977, though most of the grading companies list them as 1978 for some reason.  I've see cards for players not listed there (Gale Sayers, Tarkenton, Gehrig, Ruth, etc.), so additional players were added in later releases. 

For each player, there would need to be 2-A of each suit + red/black jokers.  Some players came in boxes (which have been submitted for grading) like Arnold Palmer, others just came wrapped in cellophane with no box like Lee Trevino.  I'm not sure if the boxes should be added to the checklist here.  I have random singles of Sandra Palmer and Lee Elder, but no complete open sets.  I may crack one of my Arnold Palmer boxes to see what else might be included.  The Lee Trevino has an ad card showing on the back.

Boxes would be ideal for the packaging, not the checklist.

OK, I think I'm all set to tackle this checklist next week.  I cross referenced all names on the sell sheet, the PSA pop report, eBay listings under "sports deck" and "cubic", so I'm hoping this list of players is complete:

Sets with examples graded by PSA (* mention on sell sheet but no PSA graded)
BB
Babe Ruth
Catfish Hunter
Jackie Robinson
Joe Morgan
Johnny Bench
Lou Gehrig
Mickey Mantle
Pete Rose
Stan Musial
Tom Seaver
*Frank Tanana - confirmed on eBay
*Randy Jones - confirmed on eBay
*C.E. "Butch" Metzger - Confirmed on eBay - Butch Metzger
FB
Bart Starr
Chuck Foreman
Fran Tarkenton
Gale Sayers
Joe Namath
Ken Stabler
G
Arnold Palmer
Ben Crenshaw
Lee Trevino
*Lee Elder - confirmed on eBay
*Sandra Palmer - none on eBay, I have a single
HK
Bob Clarke (Bobby?)
Gordie Howe
Phil Esposito
T
Arthur Ashe Jr
Billie Jean King
BkB
*Oscar Robertson - confirmed on eBay

As far as numbering, I'm planning to use a one character abbreviation for denomination (2-9/T/J/Q/K/A) and a second character for suit (H/D/S/C), RJ & BJ to cover the red and black Jokers.  Any objections or preference for 10 over T (10 would make it the only outlier with 3 character naming which would drive me a little batty)?

If my calcs are correct, 30*54 + at least one ad card (not sure if these are player specific) should be at least 1621 entries.

I believe that there is a certain standard for numbering of playing cards that was discussed a while back. I can't remember if Admin chimed in with a definitive rule, or it was majority came up with a good system, and I can't even remember where the forum posting might be - heck, this could all be a figment of my imagination.

But I have a feeling that there was some sort of numbering system used for previous decks.

Thanks!  I think I found the thread, but it didn't seem to come to a final conclusion: https://www.tradingcarddb.com/Forum.cfm/Page/I/ID/0/?MODE=VIEW&ThreadID=8631&PageIndex=1

That's the one I was referring to; well done on digging that up! Hopefully a solid decision can be reached this time through.

I do believe checklists for other card sets for this brand were uploaded already. Best practice would be just to follow the examples already out there.

OK, I finally found the ones you were referring to.  It seems all of the FB players have indvidual sets listed under '1976 Sports Deck Landsman'  so the year on those is incorrect since these weren't released until Sept/Oct of 1977.  I can follow the model on those as far as numbering, but it brings up the question of if these should be listed as separate sets for each player or attempt to aggregate them all into a single checklist?

If separated, I think those on the initial sell sheet should be listed as 1977, others (Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, etc.) likely weren't released until 1978 and I would think should be labeled as such.  If an aggregate set is preferred, a 1977-1978 date should cover all.

As far as naming, the outside of the box, for those that have outer boxes has:

Sport Deck Div - Cubic Corp.

<Address>

on the bottom, Sports Deck on the side opposite the sample back.  There is no mention of Landsman other than a tiny signature on the drawing.

For those in a cello only, the ad card is visible that credits Allen Landsman as the artist, which also contains:

Sports Deck Division

Cubic Corporation

<Address>

near the bottom.

What should be included in the set name?  'Cubic Sports Deck'?  'Sports Deck Landsman'?  Other?  It seems the grading companies have settled on '1978 Sports Deck Division', but I'm open to whatever everyone thinks is best.