Random Card of the Day



Monday, June 19, 2023

Year: 1998

Set: Bowman's Best (Rate)

Card: #94 Curt Schilling


“ A RCOTD that I actually have. This doesn't happen very often. ” -jdogg1228
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“ I wish we could capture the beauty of these cards. In hand they are nice. This guy thought he deserved to be in the Hall. On what merit? He is delusional. ” -CardFlipper1974
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“ Ten years ago..... ” -Dave Sosidka
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“ Nice looking card when in hand I guess but front scan of foil background is awful. Curt looks to be sitting on a green "O" or bottom part of a "3"? ” -captkirk42
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“ This “time warp” effect is fitting for this Hall of Fame caliber pitcher. Despite seeing his first MLB action at age 21, he was traded 3 times before he was 24, and the majority of his success was after turning 30. ” -Tscastle
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“ Back is good, but the front makes for a poor scan. ” -Theron_Nett
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Theron_Nett

Posts: 68
Joined: Oct 2020
Monday, June 19, 2023 12:31 AM

It does look like Curt is rubbing his butt on a crescent moon....


   

icekings

Posts: 5
Joined: Sep 2022
Monday, June 19, 2023 9:53 AM

CardFlipper1974 - On what merit does Curt Schilling deserve to be in the Hall of Fame?

One of the best postseason pitchers of all time with an 11-2 record and an ERA 1.23 points below his regular season career ERA.  That includes a 4-1 World Series record with an ERA 1.4 points below career ERA.  3 World Series titles.  2001 WS Co-MVP (with Randy Johnson).  Had most pitching wins in a season in each league. Had an incredible strikeout:walk ratio of 4.38, 10th best of all time (it must be noted that of the top 25, 14 are still active, which makes sense given the trend toward hitters swinging for the fences and not caring about strikeouts - the only HOF pitchers in the top 25, both behind Schilling, are Pedro Martinez and Mariano Rivera).  Now, here is how Schilling compares with (the average HOF pitcher):

Wins  216  (237)

Losses  146  (164)

It must be noted that the bulk of Schilling's career took place in the era of the relief specialist and win counts are down across the board. We may never see another 300-game winner.

W/L % .597 (.591)

Innings Pitched 3,261  (3,534)

Hits  2,998  (3,527)

Runs  1,318  (1,474)

BB  711  (975) 

SO  3,116  (2,044)

Batters Faced  13,284  (14,480)

What is not apparent without a closer look is that Schilling had more strikeouts than hits allowed. That is something achieved by only a small handful of HOF pitchers: Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson, Sandy Koufax, Pedro Martinez and John Smoltz (barely).

Sill think he's delusional?  I think it's the BBWAA who are delusional. 


   

Lyrical Kees

Posts: 142
Joined: Aug 2015
Monday, June 19, 2023 10:11 AM

A younger Schilling, wow ! This set cool looking for it's time.


   

vrooomed

Posts: 14956
Joined: Dec 2012
Monday, June 19, 2023 10:44 AM

Thank you for putting these stats out there. His stats are actually very comparable to Mike Mussina - same time frame and already in the HOF.

icekings wrote:

CardFlipper1974 - On what merit does Curt Schilling deserve to be in the Hall of Fame?

One of the best postseason pitchers of all time with an 11-2 record and an ERA 1.23 points below his regular season career ERA.  That includes a 4-1 World Series record with an ERA 1.4 points below career ERA.  3 World Series titles.  2001 WS Co-MVP (with Randy Johnson).  Had most pitching wins in a season in each league. Had an incredible strikeout:walk ratio of 4.38, 10th best of all time (it must be noted that of the top 25, 14 are still active, which makes sense given the trend toward hitters swinging for the fences and not caring about strikeouts - the only HOF pitchers in the top 25, both behind Schilling, are Pedro Martinez and Mariano Rivera).  Now, here is how Schilling compares with (the average HOF pitcher):

Wins  216  (237)

Losses  146  (164)

It must be noted that the bulk of Schilling's career took place in the era of the relief specialist and win counts are down across the board. We may never see another 300-game winner.

W/L % .597 (.591)

Innings Pitched 3,261  (3,534)

Hits  2,998  (3,527)

Runs  1,318  (1,474)

BB  711  (975) 

SO  3,116  (2,044)

Batters Faced  13,284  (14,480)

What is not apparent without a closer look is that Schilling had more strikeouts than hits allowed. That is something achieved by only a small handful of HOF pitchers: Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson, Sandy Koufax, Pedro Martinez and John Smoltz (barely).

Sill think he's delusional?  I think it's the BBWAA who are delusional. 


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UtterChaos

Posts: 1
Joined: Mar 2011
Monday, June 19, 2023 11:38 AM

@CardFlipper1974 He definitely deserves to be in the HOF. He is....

  • 26th in career WAR for pitchers (top 31 are in the Hall except for Clemens and Jim McCormick)
  • 17th in career strikeouts (top 19 in the Hall except Clemens, Sabathia, Scherzer, and Verlander)
  • 87th in career wins (more than 17 HOFers including Smoltz, Drysdale, Koufax, Lemon, and Halladay)
  • Win pct of .597 (more than 30 HOFers including Gibson, Hunter, Carlton, Smoltz, Drysdale, Jenkins, Roberts, and Ryan)
  • Key contributor to 3 WS Championship teams (postseason stats: 11-2, 2.23 ERA, 0.968 WHIP)

   

bubbasfantasyball

Posts: 1
Joined: Apr 2017
Monday, June 19, 2023 1:34 PM

Nice card, but I hate to say it as a Red Sox fan he's a terrible human being. 


   

Onemorepoint

Posts: 1446
Joined: Apr 2014
Monday, June 19, 2023 2:28 PM

Definatly not one of Bowman's best


   

Sportzcommish

Posts: 6017
Joined: Oct 2016
Monday, June 19, 2023 4:16 PM

So he disagrees with your political bent and that makes him a terrible person. Great first post.

bubbasfantasyball wrote:

Nice card, but I hate to say it as a Red Sox fan he's a terrible human being. 


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OP_Cards

Posts: 6
Joined: Feb 2023
Monday, June 19, 2023 5:16 PM

He has the most WAR of any Hall of Fame eligible player that is not in the Hall (excluding steroid guys), also he actually received more votes than Mussina 2014, 2015, and 2016, before his political comments clouded the judgement of the BBWAA. Icekings' notes about how Schilling compares to the average Hall of Fame pitcher are even more impressive when considering that he pitched in the most difficult time in baseball history to be a pitcher. His lack of admission to the Hall has absolutely nothing to do with merit or on-field performance, truly a shame. 

icekings wrote:

CardFlipper1974 - On what merit does Curt Schilling deserve to be in the Hall of Fame?

One of the best postseason pitchers of all time with an 11-2 record and an ERA 1.23 points below his regular season career ERA.  That includes a 4-1 World Series record with an ERA 1.4 points below career ERA.  3 World Series titles.  2001 WS Co-MVP (with Randy Johnson).  Had most pitching wins in a season in each league. Had an incredible strikeout:walk ratio of 4.38, 10th best of all time (it must be noted that of the top 25, 14 are still active, which makes sense given the trend toward hitters swinging for the fences and not caring about strikeouts - the only HOF pitchers in the top 25, both behind Schilling, are Pedro Martinez and Mariano Rivera).  Now, here is how Schilling compares with (the average HOF pitcher):

Wins  216  (237)

Losses  146  (164)

It must be noted that the bulk of Schilling's career took place in the era of the relief specialist and win counts are down across the board. We may never see another 300-game winner.

W/L % .597 (.591)

Innings Pitched 3,261  (3,534)

Hits  2,998  (3,527)

Runs  1,318  (1,474)

BB  711  (975) 

SO  3,116  (2,044)

Batters Faced  13,284  (14,480)

What is not apparent without a closer look is that Schilling had more strikeouts than hits allowed. That is something achieved by only a small handful of HOF pitchers: Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson, Sandy Koufax, Pedro Martinez and John Smoltz (barely).

Sill think he's delusional?  I think it's the BBWAA who are delusional. 


   

eric phillips

Posts: 129
Joined: Mar 2022
Monday, June 19, 2023 7:04 PM

he sux


   

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