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randylaw
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Sunday, December 1, 2019 8:51 AM | |
I'm still confused on teams after reading the notes. I'll probably get a lot of different opinions on this too. Glenn Robinson for example shows him in a Purdue uniform on front with no team reference. On the back of the card it mentions his college is Purdue and also that he was drafted by Milwaukee. Most cards in this set list the team as the college with one card I think with their pro team. Which is correct or should it reflect both and if so in what order?
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rmpaq5
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Sunday, December 1, 2019 9:15 AM | |
From the FAQ
Sometimes when a set is released shortly after a player is traded, the card company doesn't have a picture of the player in the new team's uniform, so they use a picture of the player in their old uniform, but they'll list the new team on the card. In this case, the team listed on the card is the team that is assigned in the database.
The same thing applies to rookies pictured in their college or minor league uniform. If the player is pictured in their college or minor league uniform, but the team listed on the card is their professional team, the team that gets put into the database is the team listed on the card.
- If the uniform pictured doesn't match the team listed on the card, which team goes in the database?
In prior discussions on this topic it was stated that the pro team listed on the back supercedes the college uniform.
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vrooomed
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Sunday, December 1, 2019 11:01 AM | |
If there are multiple cards of the same player in the set, and some cards make no mention of the pro team who drafted them, then the cards should reflect the college team. If the card references the pro team, then as Ryan pointed out, it supercedes the uniform and should be listed as the pro team.
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randylaw
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Sunday, December 1, 2019 12:28 PM | |
So all of the cards in this set except 1 needs switched to the drafted team mentioned on the back of the card. I'll work on this later then.
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Billy Kingsley
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Monday, December 2, 2019 5:28 AM | |
These are college cards. They have always been college cards and always will be.
Listing them as NBA cards is
- Inaccurate
- Invalidates ALL team listings for both NBA and college teams INCLUDING the collection summary pages where you can add an entire team to wantlist.
- Denies college collectors the ability to search for the cards they need for their collections.
- Clutters NBA collectors lists with cards that are not applicable to their collections
- Do we list minor league baseball cards with the team that drafted them? No. So why are we doing it was basketball cards?
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vrooomed
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Monday, December 2, 2019 6:22 AM | |
Actually, Billy, to point #5, yes, we do. We can link the affiliated team, which then puts those cards into the parent club's lists. Additionally, the Draft sets that show the players in their college (or HS) uniforms but ay which Major League Baseball club drafted them gets listed solely by the MLB team, and not the college or HS, so to your point, we are handling it this way in baseball. I was simply trying to keep the site consistent in the way we handle these types of setes. I wasn't trying to start anything here. Admin's site guidelines are pretty clear there. Maybe you can contact Admin and seek clarity on cards like this?
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tenlbpain
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Monday, December 2, 2019 6:38 AM | |
I would also suggest that the set is mis-categorized, and should be in the draft section, not the college section.
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C2Cigars
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Monday, December 2, 2019 6:43 AM | |
IMO, we shouldn't use the "Drafted by" from the bio data. This is not a prominent "LISTED TEAM", I don't even consider it a "LISTED TEAM", it's just a biographical fact no different than a Birth Date. There are many instances where a player NEVER played for nor even signed with the team that drafted them. Some well-known instances: John Elway, drafted by Colts; Eli Manning, drafted by Chargers.
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randylaw
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Monday, December 2, 2019 7:02 AM | |
I changed like the first 5 or so. I'll stop there and someone can fix the whole set as deemed appropriate.
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randylaw
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Monday, December 2, 2019 8:47 AM | |
I changed everything back to the way it was before I stumbled upon it and also changed the 1 pro team so the team used is consistent.
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