1997 Ultra Update Racing Forum

Does anyone know if card E10 (Ricky Craven) from 1997 Fleer Ultra Update racing Elite Seats Insert set actaully exists.  no pic of it on TCDB or mention of anyone having it in their collection, no sales history on comc or ebay.  

I have a friend on another board who is a serious Craven collector.  His want list is down to the toughest of the tough cards to find, This card is not on it, so I would assume that he has it.  I will ask him to confirm, but it might take a while to get an answer, he's not on the boards regularly anymore.

-Tom

Don' know if this helps but in May 2016 I copied a file off ebay listings that had an exclusive R Craven auction of 775 cards.  I split this auction with a serious RC collector and only took a piece of it. I don't know if we are talking about the same RC collector from 2016.  I reexamined the 775 card listing from the old text file.  E10 was NOT listed in the 775 card listing.  

That listing sounds like when Emerson's collection sold.  Was that six years ago already?  Yes, my friend was on another end of that deal, and he would know if this card was on the previous collector's want list or not.

-Tom

Edit - I just looked back through my messages from the time and it looks like the haul I remember him getting was in July of 2014.  How sure are you of the 2016 date?

Using the date of the text file created (May 2016) and file could have been copied from an older file.  Not sure auction happened in May 2016.  Auction probably was earlier.  Still have e-file and E10 was not listed on it.

Little more research - the checklist (B/card 97) for the 1997 Fleer Ultra Update does not list a card 10 for Elite Seats.

Only 9 cards listed - Don't know where the listing came from saying Elite Seats had a card 10 for Ricky Craven.

Beckett.  Enough said?

I'm happy with this result!  I'll stop my search!  And I'll look into getting that checklist corrected on tcdb. Thanks everyone for the help. 

I see what you mean about the checklist card now.  IR has been submitted to remove this card from the checklist, just need someone to second it.

My friend confirmed that this card does not exist.

I didn't really want to bump the thread, but I did want to close the loop.

-Tom