2022 Wild Card Matte Football Forum

So all of the Matte colors are to be considered the same product since they were released together, at the same time, and in the same cases, and considered the same product by the company that makes them, right?

If we take Topps and Topps Chrome, they're released at different moments, don't even have the same base checklists, have different inserts, different parallels, etc. I mean, if you take 2021 Topps Baseball, you have full factory parallel sets released by themselves at Walmart, and they aren't considered a different product, but just a regular parallel.

I think it's a pretty strong point for all of Matte to be considered the same product, if anything.

I'm not really arguing against that point, and it probably would simplify things, but if they are not released together in the same product packaging, by the site's definition, they're to be listed as separate products.

So we gotta move all of these separately released full factory parallel sets to their own product page, by that logic too, right?

I really don't understand the logic behind your point. We're literally talking about the same product that comes in different variations in different boxes. All released together, at the same time, by the same company. The color isn't even mentionned on the boxes, they're all just named Wild Card Matte. It's just the color of the box that's different!

I mean, Panini sometimes releases different base cards (and different parallels for the inserts) for their hobby and blaster/retail releases. Since they're not released together in the same product packaging, shouldn't they also be listed as different products?

Hell, 2019 and 2020 Panini Playbook Hobby didn't even have a base checklist. It was exclusive to the retail boxes, and yet they're all listed together in the same product.

If we go down that line, we'll have tons of products to separate!

Really, I get it. I truly do. And I am agreement with you that these Wild Card Matte sets should probably be one product here. Just Admin has laid out the rules for how to list stuff here. If it's truly one release with multiple distribution routes and colors, cool. Let's get the 2021 set listed as one set, and do the same with the new release. I'm perfectly cool with that. I'm just asking the questions that need to be answered so we know that we're handling it the right way.

You've helped us with some other confusing releases, and I really appreciate your help and diligence here. Really. I mean it.

Thank you, and I'm sorry if I came out as a little much, it's just that Wild Card releases can be a little (read: very)  frustrating.

I'll try and start adding the different inserts and parallels in the next few days once I'm done adding the players' teams to the different checklists.

Also, thank you for helping out, sometimes it's pretty hard to figure sets out.

We're good, And I understand how frustrating it is to figure out sets like this. Sometimes, I think card companies are just sitting there trying to figure out how to make things so complicated that no site can truly checklist them. :)