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I was more pissed that one of does was Henry Ruggs. If you are putting out cards 3 months after the season and five months after the wreck, why did you not remove him and put someone else from the Raiders in there?

I feel that the answer is "infinite" because of what Charlie Brown had to go through to try and find a Joe Shlabotnik card. I feel that it's very possible that one never gets that last card based on the variability going on.

I can say this much. I bought a box of 90 Donruss a few years ago. In that box I got quads and even 5x of certain cards. Good luck on the formula....

I bought 3 boxes of 92 UD and still had 100-200 waitlist for the set. Not including inserts. I bought 3 boxes of 89 Fleer and didn't complete the set. 2 boxes of 90 Leaf and still had to hit the common bin.

It is not possible to complete any sets by buying packs, boxes, cases or even shipping containers. Everyone here knows that those last 3 or 4 cards will never appear no matter how hard you try. We all will at some point give up and trade for or cave in to buying them on eBay. 

You know it and I know it. No amount of brain numbing math is going to change it.

I always felt like Charlie Brown had a real lack of self-confidence and that's probably why he spent his whole life working for peanuts.

I bought racing cards in the day. Small sets of 100 cards. You could buy just one box and get the set in the packs. I think the larger the set, more boxes you will need to purchase.

I also think the card makers print and ship cards to oppisite sides of the states. That is the reason why you can never build a set with opening packs. 

Just my two cents on the matter.

Jeff

This question is simialar to the odds that you will flip a coin 10 times and get 5 heads and 5 tails. There is a statistical odd of get it perfect because there are only 2 choices. However, the actually probability is different, I could get 6 heads and 4 tails or any combo. Some might get lucky and not get any dupes while the next my get a dup every pack. Great question but it is fun. Now think of a new set it would be fun to calculate beacsue you have xxx amount of cards and inserts that are 1:x so after x amount of packs you have to add another pack, unless it is one inseret per pack.

This what you seek is even more random than dice rolls in breaks.

Compounded occasionally by some sets and off the top i can't remember which ones exactly were deliberately devious in forcing people into buying another packaging format(jumbo,retail or hobby) because certain cards to complete sets were only available to certain formats and i'm referring to base cards not exclusive to X inserts.

Many were livid after cracking an enire case and not being able to build 1 set.

Best success ratio ever was in a 1989-90 O-pee-chee vending case which perfectly yielded 24 sets and 80 towards a 25th.

Then wax wise it was 1990-91 o-pee-chee premier hockey a box of 36 packs with 7 per gave 1 full set of 132 and 120 towards the next set.

2017 Topps baseball had very good collation but not 1 single sp in an entire hobby case(obviously not everyones experience)

It would be cool to have that sliding scale probability tool to assess however as it has been said are all printed equally or repeated to fill the sheet?

And they'll likely never divulge how many were scrapped in production.

I just finished going through a 1987 Topps baseball box of 36 wax packs. There are supposed to be 17 cards per pack. Should have been (17 * 36) 612 cards. There were three packs that only had 16 cards for 609 cards, including duplicates. (612 - 3) 609. 525 were unique and only 84 were duplicate.

5/30 Sorry, if you see this pop up again you will probably be wondering "why won't this guy let this thread die?"
I just wanted to update that I went through another box of 1987 Topps Baseball packs and treated it as though I hadn't gone through one before. This one only had 35 packs, however, none of the packs were missing any cards. Total of (17 * 35) 595 cards. 511 unique and again, 84 were duplicate.

12/5 Went through a hobby box of 22 * 8 1999 Series 1 cards and a retail box of 36 * 11 cards (same series). No duplicates in the hobby box. Series 1 portion of the set has 241 cards. Hobby got me 176 of them, retail got me all but one of those left. The one was Sammy Sosa though.

2/27 Went through 1,725 1992 Topps cards. Got all but 49 of the 792.

3/5 Went through a 2021 series 1 Hobby box. 330 cards in series, got all but 18 of them, though I also got 4 duplicates. .
3/19 Not at all sure what to believe about hobby boxes anymore. The 2021 Series 2 Hobby box, and it definitely was a hobby box, only had 219 of the 330 cards and a ton of duplicates. Five hanger boxes (67 cards) later and I'm down to 50 left to get. Closer to trading range but not ideal.
3/24 2006 Topps Series 1 Hobby box. 330 cards in series, got all but 4 of them. One of the four that I did not get is the Alex Gordon card which seems to sell for at least fifty bucks in any of its variations, not that I care that much about card values as a set builder.
3/26 2006 Topps Series 2 Hobby box 323 of 329, all but 6 of them.
4/2 1997 Series 1 NOT a Hobby box (retail box), 238 of 277
4/16 2016 Topps Series One Hobby box 310 of 350 No real duplicates
4/22 A second 2016 Series one hobby box, I think this was 319 without duplicates. Just 10 cards left to find for a complete base set of Series one.
4/23 2016 Series Two hobby box 2 duplicates, all but 38 of the cards

5/7 2002 Series 2 340 of 354, 11 duplicates
5/14 2012 Series 1 288 of the 330, 0 duplicates