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I cannot help but feel that this new detailed record available of the Change Log is destined to become a "battleground of wits and endurance" of sorts. To be sure, there are almost as many different trains of thought of what is "correct" in the hobby world of card collecting as there are collectors. Just perusing a few sets' Change Logs, I find that many of the changes I have made very recently have been changed again, most back to the very same info that I "corrected".

Please understand, fellow members, I have no illusions of any omniscience of mine. What I DO strive for, without apology, is a depiction and a description of an item Just. As. It. Is. Without embellishment, imagination, or just simply choosing to overlook what is physically evident on the card.

When I first discovered this site, the most coveted maxim here, to me, was a tireless pursuit of accuracy from all members, for all submitted info. This melds perfectly with my own relentless OCD, and my personal belief that if we are to hold ourselves to a higher standard of hobby excellence (and fun!), the information found on this site should be unquestionably, transparently accurate, for collectors of all levels of experience to trust.

If a card is a photo of one or more players, yet the text on the card identifies it as a Checklist or some other subset, and makes no mention of the players' names---title the card exactly as it is printed on the card, and create a link to any player's names. Done. List the card # exactly as it is printed on the card, and clearly describe any variations, making searching a much less frustrating experience for all members. Done.

Every day I see "corrections" and submitted card name titles consisting of text and/or info that is nowhere to be found on the card itself. At the very least, if you are unsure about how to title a card, please resist the impulse to make something up and submit it. Likewise, a verbatim plagiarism of Beckett's card descriptions here is beyond tacky.  ;-)

Agree completely!

Before I can "Agree completely", I have to ask: How would you title the most famous baseball card in the world, if you were entering the T206 checklist?  If your answer is "Honus Wagner", I can go along with most of what you said.  If your answer is "Name it 'Wagner' and link it to Honus Wagner" then I disagree with you 100%.

I'm about as non-OCD as it gets, and I try to avoid arguments in the forums, and this is my fifth (and most civil) draft of my reply to your post, but I am absolutely convinced that this card should show up as Honus Wagner in any useful checklist.  I'm not sure how far you take your Just. As. It. Is.  And he's a Pittsburgh Pirate.  Not a "Pittsburg" Pirate.

On that note, I will be taking a break from everything on this site except for the tracking of my collection.  No forums.  No submitting info or scans.  No correcting errors.  No more spending three hours of my night creating PIDs for snooker players and mountain climbers in multi-sport sets that I don't even own.  Maybe I'll still comment on card of the day.  But I need a break.  All this excessive OCD from everyone is really getting to me.  The site stopped being fun.  Remember, we are VOLUNTEERS here.  And some of you could probably use a break from me too!

Hi David! When I consider the best "Name" for a card, I always approach the decision from what I remember as a novice collector. I didn't know a lot of names by faces. Teams by names, etc...   The simplest clue is what I was looking for to I.D. my cards.

I like your example card above. The point is to rely on the card itself, as opposed to ones knowledge of the card /player, which varies greatly.  Not every card will be as easy or difficult to I.D. as the next, and what is not on the card can be just as important as what is on the card. Personally, I would name this one "Honus Wagner" as well, if for no other reason, that "Wagner, Pittsburg" or simply "Wagner" doesn't benefit the wide range of collectors experience.  If, however, this famous card had only the text "Checklist" on the front, and nothing else, I would suggest in favor of naming the card as such, and making certain to link Mr. Wagner to the card. I know a few baseball collectors who actually haven't heard of Honus Wagner (!)

My friend, my OCD is my own thing, and I never want anyone here to feel oppressed in any way by anything I bring up. The efforts you and many others here undertake every day are what makes this site #1.