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That's perfect, I have an even better one. Now where can we upload it to. Now the Row, Column notes now make sense and easy to match. Remember, there are 197 different stickers including the many puzzle variants. Would everybody be ok that it came from the FSP? If at all doable, I'd seriously recommend. Dan handed me the broom to cleanup the sticker sets mess. And I believe this is a must. Really' if we have a place for packaging, this just makes sense.

Note: Interesting you mentioned other puzzles. When I was researching this fleer set, I thought having a reference for all Puzzle Sets would be quite helpful. So, I started saving the Pics to a Puzzle Pic file, just in case, alot of the initial work would be done.

I would be optimistic that ADMIN sees a purpose for these pics. A great identification resource. Fingers crossed. It would make me feel like I made a signicant contribution instead of being a constant PIA.

Boy I must have been dreaming!!!!

I though we agreed on using the Row and Column  ideal.    Showing the VAR Row X, Column Y.   Then adding an insert set with only the backs  Labeled  Row X, Column Y.  The only issue was where, how do we show the completed puzzle.   I though several idea were thrown around.  I also though someone was going to ask Admin what we should do about the completed puzzle picture.   

Then we could clean up all the cards.

I may not have the proper equipment to think      that is what my wife keep  telling  me.

Jim, right on track. Rows/Columns would be detailed in Edit Note 2. That's been Oked.

So, what we need is the Row/Column note to be referenced in a Grid Pic, as illustrated by Dan in an earlier reply. 

I guess it all boils down to ADMIN's OK and how to and where to upload it.. I'm not sure anybody wrote ADMIN, Dan seemed to think the idea might upset the boss. I. personally think,  it's a proactive suggestion for the better understanding of the different puzzle sets.

I know 1982 is a whole project/headache and things are still going on to get this cleaned up. Just wanted to see where things were with the other sets?

1983 = Sorted by team name instead of city within Logo group and Cap group
1984 = Sorted by city then Cap/Logo. Should it be Logo/City then Cap/City instead?
1985 = Small Print and Large Print lists sorted perfectly IMO. 3-card panels need some alphabetizing
1986 = Sorted by Famous Feats on back instead of Logo/city/VARs then Pennant/city/VARs
1987 = Sorted by team name instead of city/VAR within Logo group and Dual Mini group
1988 = Sorted perfectly IMO
1989 = Logo group sorted perfectly IMO. Quad Mini group needs some alphabetizing. Not sure why this set has the minis split off to their own list?
1990 = Logo group sorted perfectly IMO. Quad Mini group needs some alphabetizing
1991 = Logo group sorted perfectly IMO. Quad Mini group needs some alphabetizing (currently sorted by team name)

Big ED, I need a little time, busy tonight. I also want to check with Dan and Jim on our overall progress. We, Dan made a major breakthrough today. Announcement coming. ~BOB~

The dreaded 1982 Fleer Sticker checklist is all cleaned up and just needs a reordering from an Admin! I'll work on the updated order tonight and send the sheet to BOB to provide to whoever has permissions to reorder.

I need help on a few remaining items:

1. The baseball diamond versions of the Orioles, Red Sox, Brewers and Athletics have variations involving "1mm" and "3mm" spaces between the MLB logo and the city name. I need assistance filling in the remaining missing images.

2. The checklist has a Yankees baseball diamond VAR where someone described a "blank yellowish MLB logo" and didn't provide a description of the puzzle piece. Can anyone confirm this exists, and if so, which puzzle piece is it?

3. The checklist has a Cubs monogram/script VAR where someone described a corner with red/blue but didn't provide an image or description, so I don't know which corner it is. Can anyone confirm?

4. The checklist has two Phillies colored background VARs where this puzzle piece doesn't match any of the 32 usual ones. Any idea what this puzzle piece is?


 

I can't find the last topic where I was called out for making updates, so I'll throw my updates here:

1980 = All stickers now have full city/team name, ordered within team by Cap/Monogram/Logo/Baseball Diamond, with any VARs sorted by the back's World Series year. Moved St. Louis up between Pittsburgh and San Diego. Sample image of the main set (upside-down Tigers logo) was replaced. Sticker count updated to the correct number 108. Insert/Related set and checklist for "World Series Sticker Backs" was created and BOB is currently working to complete the images and Team Links on that one.

1981 = All stickers now have full city/team name, ordered within team by Cap/Monogram/Logo/Baseball Diamond, with any VARs sorted by the back's All-Star Game year. Moved St. Louis up between Pittsburgh and San Diego. Sticker count updated to the correct number 108. Insert/Related set and checklist for "All-Star Game Sticker Backs" was created and BOB is currently working to complete the images and Team Links on that one.

1982 = All sticker names have been corrected to match what was previously established and being used on 1980 and 1981. Moved St. Louis up between Pittsburgh and San Diego. VARs for all types are sorted by 3mm/1mm (where applicable), then "No 'Puzzle on Back'"/"Puzzle on Back", then coordinates of puzzle piece top-left to bottom-right. Sticker count updated to the correct number 107 (this set didn't have the MLB logo the last two did). No Insert/Related set has been created yet for "1981 All-Star Game Puzzle Sticker Backs".

1983 = Still has some inconsistent VAR sorting for the rainbow backgrounds and the "PEEL" arrows. I'll do some minor cleanup on that one this weekend.
(7/11 UPDATE: Moved St. Louis up between Pittsburgh and San Diego. Cleanup is done. Nothing else to do on this one!)

1984 = Should be pretty good. I'll double-check the VAR sorting on this one as well.
(7/11 UPDATE: Moved St. Louis up between Pittsburgh and San Diego. Cleanup is done. Nothing else to do on this one!)

1985 = Nothing touched on Panels. Sticker count updated to the correct number 52 on all three individual sets (Small, Large, Blank). Logo VARs for "PEEL" arrows were given consistent ordering throughout all three sets. Added Release Notes descriptions for all three sets so viewers could tell the difference between the Small Print and Large Print backs. Added large print back images to any stickers that were missing them (we had people uploading small prints in the empty spots).

1986 = I apologize if this makes anyone mad, but the way the stickers were numbered and sorted by the Famous Feats back did not make any sense to me when we have a "Famous Feats Sticker Backs" insert/related set, it was inconsistent with all the other Fleer sticker sets in the database, and it made it tough to easily locate the front sticker in the checklist. All stickers now have full city/team name, ordered within team by Logo/Pennant, with any VARs sorted by the back's Famous Feats number, similar to what we did for the late-80s Topps Sticker album VARs. (There's also an extra level of sorting on the Milwaukee stickers for color variations.) Changed all stickers to NNO. Moved St. Louis up between Pittsburgh and San Diego. Sticker count updated to the correct number 52.

1987 = Moved St. Louis up between Pittsburgh and San Diego.
(7/11 UPDATE: Created "Team Logo Sticker Backs" insert/related set for displaying the 26 logo backs in city order. I put the Mets one up as an example, then anyone that wants to fill the rest with nicer larger scans can do so. Release Notes description copied over from 1986 and pending Admin approval.)
(7/12 UPDATE: Admin approved the Release Notes.)

1988 = Moved St. Louis up between Pittsburgh and San Diego. Minor sorting updates based on old/new Pirates logo and/or stadium backs.
(7/11 UPDATE: Created "Stadium Sticker Backs" insert/related set for displaying the 26 stadium backs in stadium name order. I put the Yankees one up as an example, then anyone that wants to fill the rest with nicer larger scans can do so. Release Notes description copied over from 1986 and pending Admin approval.)
(7/12 UPDATE: Admin approved the Release Notes.)

1989 = Moved St. Louis up between Pittsburgh and San Diego. On quad stickers, added "AL:", "NL:" and "MLB:" prefixes to Names then sorted by AL/NL/MLB combos then city name. VARs sorted by back team's city.
(7/11 UPDATE: Looks like a "Team History Sticker Backs" insert/related set was created for displaying the 26 history backs in city order. I added a few, then anyone that wants to fill the rest with nicer larger scans can do so. Release Notes description copied over from 1986 and pending Admin approval.)
(7/12 UPDATE: Admin approved the Release Notes.)

1990 = Moved St. Louis up between Pittsburgh and San Diego. On quad stickers, added "AL:", "NL:" and "MLB:" prefixes to Names then sorted by AL/NL/MLB combos then city name.
(7/11 UPDATE: Created "Baseball Trivia Sticker Backs" insert/related set for displaying the trivia from the backs. I added a few, then anyone that wants to fill the rest with nicer larger scans can do so. Release Notes description copied over from 1986 and pending Admin approval.)
(7/12 UPDATE: Admin approved the Release Notes.)

1991 = Moved St. Louis up between Pittsburgh and San Diego. On quad stickers, added "AL:", "NL:" and "MLB:" prefixes to Names then sorted by AL/NL/MLB combos then city name. MLB quad VARs sorted by black&white then color. VARs sorted by back team's city. I'll take another look at the large logo VARs to figure out an appropriate sort for those.
(7/11 UPDATE: Cleaned up the VAR notes on the large team logos. Created "Top 10 Team Leaders Sticker Backs" insert/related set for displaying the 26 backs in city order. I put the Yankees one up as an example, then anyone that wants to fill the rest with nicer larger scans can do so. Release Notes description copied over from 1986 and pending Admin approval.)
(7/12 UPDATE: Admin approved the Release Notes.)


So ..... at this point, other than what BOB is working on for 1980 and 1981, MAYBE adding a 1982 insert/related for the ASG puzzle backs, and some minor sorting here and there, everything 1980 through 1991 should now be good. 1985 is missing Front images for Large and Blank, but I believe they're just the same ones as the Small and can be filled in as we go along.

OK, yell at me for touching those stickers again.

Heck NO....fantastic !!!!

But I will tweek and stay in touch as what I did and still have to do.

FB is next.

Grateful to you guys, for helping unravel this mess.

~bob~

Updates posted for yesterday and today. One remaining item: what was ever decided on for the 1982 All-Star puzzle? Are we doing a 32-card related set for now, or is an update coming that'll let us display puzzles?

I give up. Dan and I put work into getting this straight and I don't know why we spent the time doing it. Someone else is going to go in and make even more changes. Why bother