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So, I realised that Panini has various different releases, international and US and usually the main difference is the numbering as well as color of back text. I thought that is all, but apparently, it is not... and I may have made a mistake when adding some back scans recently, but just want to see if it is a mistake or not...

Now, let's focus on 2018 Panini World Cup Russia set here...
- https://www.tcdb.com/ViewSet.cfm/sid/217382/2018-Panini-FIFA-World-Cup-Russia

The description does mention many countries, and I thought as long as back is pink that is the main difference from other set we have on file with black back side.

However, take a look at back of a sticker uploaded before me which is probably from Brazilian release:
- https://www.tcdb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/217382/cid/13772263/2018-Panini-FIFA-World-Cup-Russia-443-Hugo-Ayala

Now take a look at back of a sticker uploaded by me:
- https://www.tcdb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/217382/cid/13772272/2018-Panini-FIFA-World-Cup-Russia-452-Hector-Herrera

You can see the difference, but mainly in where it is printed. Otherwise they are almost identical, and front stickers are identical.

If you take a look at the package (packs for example)...
- https://www.tcdb.com/Packaging.cfm/sid/217382/2018-Panini-FIFA-World-Cup-Russia

You can see pack scan uploaded by me and by another user. One pack has text in Spanish and mine does not. However, seeing how so many countries are listed in description of this set, it is logical that say Chinese or Ukrainian or Greek will have their text in their language no doubt and perhaps back of those stickers may have their local subsidiary of Panini, I dunno.

But is that the reason for making many duplicate sets, one for each country?

It's probably different when Panini has multi-language title on the back like for Smurfs for example...
- https://www.tcdb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/311982/cid/18577375/1982-Panini-Smurfs-Stickers-1-Sticker-1

So no matter the country, the back probably looks the same.

If there is text on front stickers and they are different or localized, those would be different sets, but if just printed company is localized and mentioned on the back, does it matter which back is uploaded? Or do we treat those just as different relics where same card can have red or black or red/black cloth piece on the card and we only accept one, either one of those.

So, do we keep them together as long as there are no differences on the front?

Or, do we separate all these because of subtle differences of the back text? I like that idea, but it's just too much work, lol. Or is there a way to create a new set by duplicating the one on file only without card images? ;))

Made a similar but much shorter post about the same issue last night. Wondering about the same thing.

https://www.tcdb.com/Forum.cfm/Page/S/ID/180287/?MODE=VIEW&ThreadID=40234&C=0

Oh, I see. Well, let me know if you get reply, and I'll do the same. Surprisingly enough, I didn't encounter similar problem with World Cup 2022 stickers I've recently been adding (sure, packs were localized, but stickers don't seem to have any extra text).

Found this post: https://cartophilic-info-exch.blogspot.com/2018/04/panini-fifa-world-cup-russia-2018_15.html

That is a very useful site for anything soccer related.

Nice. They don't even have the back version listed that we have on file with that spanish text below the number :)

I guess not so useful after all :)

Seems very difficult to determine how many versions there are and in which countries, for example I read that one version of the album was used in Belgium, Netherlands, Luxemburg and Peru.

Yeah, these need to be split, and after dealing with WC 2022 I am starting to get the hang of colors they use for which regions, lol :P

Maybe this helps:

2018 World Cup Sticker: 6 versions

Gold Border: Black Back Made in Italy Swiss Edition

Pink Back: Industria Argentina Only sold in Argentina.     Very rare

Pink Back: Made in Brazil Sold in South America

Pink Back: Made in Italy Sold in Europe

Black Back: Made in Brazil

Black Back: Made in Italy Sold in Europe and North America

2022 was crazy.

White Border: Retail version: Black Back: Made in Italy

Gold Border: Panini US online exclusive Black Back: Made in Italy

Blue Border: Black Back: Made in Italy

Red Border: Black Back: Made in Italy

Purple Border: Black Back: Made in Italy

Green Border: Black Back: Made in Italy

Black Border: 1/1 Black Back: Made in Italy

Blue Borderless: Blue Back. Made in Italy

Blue Borderless: Blue Back: Made in Brazil

Maroon Borderless: Oryx Edition(Swiss) Black Back: Made in Italy

Orange Borderless: Pink Back: Made in Italy

Orange Borderless: Pink Back: Made in Brazil

Orange Borderless: Pink Back: Industria Argentina

Thanks, already finished with that. Just wanted to fix existing sets and upload those that I have so that's that.

Didn't know much about Oryx edition, but I see you wrote Swiss edition. I thought Gold Border series were Swiss edition.

As for Blue/Red/Purple/Green/Black border, those were parallel sets of US version. I see we have Gold Border as parallel set of US version.

Really not sure why they're complicating so much. And they change number of stickers too and how they look so you cannot use them interchangeably in your album... it's insane :)