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Seems like we are in the wrong business, let's all pull out our printers and make up some phony stuff label it as fictitiously as possible and sell it by the truckloads throw a holder on it and voila a 50$ Tom Brady RC 

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=+2000+FLEER+ULTRA+POLYCHROME+GOLD+REFRACTOR&_sacat=0

Hmmm ok did we all miss these 2000 ultra polychrome refractor prizm capital B capital yeS

Hopefully no one will get the idea to add these to this site,

Oh yeah they look cool but i'm not about to start buying 50$ counterfeit bills just because they look cool.

What do you think??

Should i be leaning towards the phone to make a call and start producing some sweet 1979-80 Upper Deck Wayne Gretzky Young Guns Rc's?

Or better yet acouple of hundred 86-87 Panini Flux Michael Jordan RC 1/1's in a BSA holder for 6 million$ each

Ah yes, good old Fleer, home of the Refractor! Then again, I think a lot of newer collectors/"investors" can be fooled by these because they're "graded" and many people know the term Refractor, even if they don't realize it only applies to Topps cards (I've seen "Refractor" and "Prizm" used interchangably quite a bit).

I was looking at the sold listings on eBay and about to say "At least none of them sold for more than $50 (still too much) when I saw someone spent $117 PLUS SHIPPING. Good thing these are so rare, I mean only 128 that are all Gem Mint 10s have sold since late last year. I wonder how many of the sold items are from this one auction for 10 of them.

I reported the seller but I doubt eBay will do anything. That would take away from their cut.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313&_nkw=TOM+BRADY+2000+FLEER+%E2%80%9CAUTOGRAPHED+GOLD+REFRACTOR%E2%80%9D+GEMMT+10+ROOKIE+CARD+LOT&_sacat=0

A convincing write-up or? - 

This special polychrome Tom Brady Rookie card was released by Fleer in 2000.  It was a new trading card technology that was way ahead of its time.  This Specialty Trading Card was made by Fleer in the Year 2000 for promotion with the Fleer Ultra Gold Cards, but never truly took off due to Fleer’s demise and the softness of the trading card market.  Here is your chance to to pick up this very sought-after card by all Brady collectors. 100% authentic and original.

2000 Ultra 23K gold Brady nice i missed that 1 too

https://www.ebay.com/itm/194742879996?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item2d579486fc:g:N1sAAOSw305h5K-u&amdata=enc%3AAQAGAAAC0PYe5NmHp%252B2JMhMi7yxGiTJkPrKr5t53CooMSQt2orsSd3M8ngECaRA0SmyU4KT%252FnrOcWc6HE693%252F6hxdRkem6ZgHA0aJLJhZwvTsquOPbqj11gpNB85EwWPDqcFX10ztMvsbT9Ko%252BWfIUJ9LAPjyrx1OzI51uRYVT6vNUYnZ%252FudWndZC8SSwSilFX0BMm9GALcNsVsM01RDOeuc3Q61uzM2geYKXjxQ%252BQlEo%252B%252Fk%252BpmaeEeXHJx576vnadZ%252FPY85ty1DSFOvmjwYA%252FsALAjXUVeZJbRQ0rsnTSQrK4ZOsDsaFet5XM9FvG4Z%252BPggHyeCvETIL%252BYcOfocYcB13SC08eVWEeVVhJ3ecU9Ip5dytsMMU3D%252FNOG7%252FNBy%252BCQ1u%252FJ45%252Fw%252BOAyQ0vHGw%252BHkyIX6SXDGT7uG98L%252F7NvOZV5gMBfL0RSIlzV%252FYWwjBb7211NmK7zfCjVnmgG7DTueIGL36%252FrWqCLfb9KUMKoCEmifOqoHz22gMeNyKwxyxn89HqI6codcLIITz5Iv8blOAoqDdzPfo7cjLrmnvotxUI2nXBiecF6WWcpk9oD6fGz0hccpqN1k3gMMc0OcHaTK8NomAfu1DUrECrutdeSa0%252FZ0t0sTMseR2f9E4jaPzAkcuQzI0ivYxe%252F7q%252FTUxkLocqNXefqOeTciTcEqqmBtiM2BxQ9dwjEP79ey9GjJViAxpvvAYyaOzelYJzfLXYRKepE9fSqaG9Bc2gYbMA59tjYggZv6oAUBpZTzCGzG3l5FaRR1w8bj0N5FzQdAB6fvRqJIGrkW5mxA2SosF%252BegMYe370N1%252BNWLff2aUFgK0snah1yRYHN9fdeu8B2iqt6PIqb7JgsALF0SXckrqJYP%252FR5OF0521BJYsSgnYxr6RTH6%252BBhexdJK3BIh2%252FghOFqB%252BRWHlrfXa0DJO%252F%252FyZQdv6j7mSQ2MsR5UE3M4z0lpU%252Bd%252FLeAE%252FQ%253D%253D%7Cclp%3A2334524%7Ctkp%3ABFBMxo2xmuVf

2006 Merrick Mint feel the game Tom Brady 2000 draft pick and the list goes on I don't think this 1 guy actually sells legit cards and why should he raking it in with all those nice homemade cusTOM foolery cards

I see these lame gold Brady "rookies" on facebook marketplace all the time too. I hate them.

They rarely do, only once someone big and powerful threatening a lawsuit for copyright infringement or something similar then they

perk up and will look deeper into it,

I'm thinking perhaps alerting Leaf an active company that this guy is using their name but then again Leaf themselves may not even 

be "legit" and likely going this route you wouldn't get into too much trouble as opposed to counterfeiting money straight up now thats risky. 

Fun times!

Upper Deck has the Fleer rights. If alerting anyone to these clear fakes, UD would be the ones to talk to about it. They didn't own Fleer back then but that item description about Fleer's demise is also false as everything. Their demise actually never happened. They made cards through 2005 and then sold off everything to Upper Deck who produced cards with the Fleer brand from 2006 onward.

And NO, the current Leaf Company has nothing to do with the original Leaf Co. or Donruss or Playoff. The current Leaf company just started using the name and logo after the copyright for the original name and logo expired. It became legal for them to use it since nobody ever re-applied for the copyrights. You can blame Panini for that. They bought the Donruss/Playoff Corp. and stopped using the Leaf name, so they had no need for the copyrighted logo. They also dropped the Playoff copyrights. They ONLY wanted the Donruss name and copyright and the titles to products made by all three brands under the same license at the time.

About Leaf now, is what i am referring to in his seemingly repro 2020 joe burrows cards, does Current Leaf even have that Leaf trademarked, copyrighted, owned etc..?

It just seems "slapped' on.

Was there an original Leaf company? 

Or was it a part that belonged to Donruss or vice versa?

Current Leaf = In The Game - Dr. Price

Really?

He of Parkhurst fame right?

Ahhh the good doctor can't seem to stay away.