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Hey all, wanted to get the perspective and perhaps offical stance of the site on this.  

There are memorabilia sets, like the below where a large number of the cards in the list have varous relics, different colors or different materials (jersey v bat).  Should these be seperated out like the below list when exists, or is it generally known that variations of the relic exist?  I am one to think they shouldnt be seperate, but wanted other thoughts.

https://www.tcdb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/48357/cid/16794199/2011-Topps---Topps-60-Relics-T60R-DW-Dave-Winfield

To help, you can look at Rule VI in the FAQ and see if that helps.

Rules and Guidelines 10.20.2018.pdf (tcdb.com)

Thanks for the doc, i hadn't seen that fully yet.  

Guideline 4B—Do not use the VAR Note solely because the relic on a MEM card is issued in different colors. However, if specifically designated Home and Away versions of a card are issued, the VAR Note is appropriate if the other criteria are met.

I am assuming that the above would hold true for bad vs jersey.  

There is a note option when you add an item, use detailed add. That is where I put details about the particulars of a card I may have, such as if there is a color difference for a piece.

Thx, i do that too.  I just wanted to make sure before I ask for the variations to be removed.  I have the master set, but there are new ones added often that make me panic there is more, lol, but they are just bat vs jersey.

From what I understand, we're allowed to list bat and jersey as separate VARs since they're different materials

That I'd what I had thought too. Note1 of MEM, VAR and Note2 lists type. Same type, different colors don't get a VAR, just material change.

Different colors of a jersey card (even if the colors are obviously not from the same jersey) - NO VAR

Different materials contained in a relic card (Bat vs. Shoe vs. Jersey) - VAR

The card itself has something different about it (a word says Patch instead of Jersey on it) - VAR

Thanks Dan

So I'm putting together the 2006 Bowman Draft Futures Game Relics insert set and see that 2 cards in the database (Hu and Chen) have 3 jersey color variations listed.  Went to COMC and they have other cards listed with different color jersey versions.  For example: 

2006 Bowman Draft Picks & Prospects - Futures Game - Relics #FG38.1 George Kottaras (Dark Swatch)

2006 Bowman Draft Picks & Prospects - Futures Game - Relics #FG38.2  George Kottaras (Yellow Swatch)

My question is: does the database need to be updated to reflect these other players different jersey colors? And do all the players in the insert set have 3 different color jersey versions? (if so this could get expensive tracking down 138 cards!)