1990 Best Jacksonville Expos Baseball Forum

If we run into a set with scans that are cropped very poorly (such as this set), where is the proper place to report that?  I don't have the set, so I can't submit new scans...

use the inaccuracies link.

Nice catch. Man someone's scanner loves cropping stuff. Some of the backs look OK, but most don't. None of the fronts look like they are acceptable. Looks like the same user with the proper permissions to self-approve their scans added scans for the whole set.

If you have a scanner that has a tendency to autocrop the images then you should not submit any scans to the database, unless you can control how your scanner scans cards. I suspect that the scanner used is one of these high-speed scanners that you load a batch of cards into the scanner's feed tray and it scans a hundred cards in just a few seconds.

This particular member has uploaded hundreds of images that were terrible (and those are just the ones *I* reported). I suspect the same as you about the scanning practices. Too many autocropped and crooked to be flatbed scans.

Tired of seeing these scans, be it either careless scanning by the originator or something stolen from another website.  Many are taking up this practice just to gain points.  I reported another one this morning from an OPC set. Either the card had been scanned through a top loader (suspecct that was it) or it was just a very dark and poor scan so much so that it looked like the Topps version even though it was definitely OPC. And yes, it was from one of the top 10 members in points.

Wow, those are some wonky scans. I fixed one last night that look like someone had smeared something all over their scanner. 

Is there a way to implement two procedural changes?  The first would be to add automation to not allow anyone to approve there own scans.  The second would be to allow any bad scan to be replaced, and when it is, the original scanner loses their points and the new scanner gets them.

I’d rather see a bad scan than no scan, but no one should be rewarded for bad scanning.  If someone scanned something better than I did, I’d have no problem handing the points over.

Problem with this is that there would be such along queue of scans to be approved and with the second idea, the same people chasing points would simply replace scans to steal points from others.

I'd rather seee that after someone has achieved the required points to reach all permission levels and to be a "Legend", the points would no longer be tabulated for that individual.  The bad scans and / or the stealing of scans from the internet for the sake of points would probably be drastically reuced.

I do agree I rather see a Pr card scan than no scan at all; I uploaded a few in the older OPC sets because there was no scan. I would love it if someone could upload a better condition card image to replace those.  But in the new sets, a bad scan is just that, a bad scan.

My thought is if you get reported as a bad scanner then you should have that permission taken away to approve permanently.... might cut down on the BS. Making double work here for those of us who do it right 

A couple points:

Disallowing certain individuals who have proven to upload utter garbage to self-approve is an idea I support. Unfortunately, that isn't the case higher up.

Allowing people to overwrite scans should be allowed. I wouldn't even care about the points side of it, but what I do care about is that someone else would taking credit for a better scan. Currently, if you do overwrite a scan, the originl poster's ID still appears below the scan. I actually did that for one scan that was very washed out (it was a checklist that couldn't be read on here it was so bad), but no one will ever know it's my scan that made it so we can read the text on there now. That I don't like. Of course, there's the problem of people wanting to "get more credit" and just replacing everything whether it was bad or not.

I just came up with an idea. Maybe you guys can take it and make it better.

Just like with the Inaccuracy Report, when a set needs to be converted to NNO or deleted, we have a 1-2-3 system in place. Here's the idea.

A bad scan is detected. The tag "Scan Needs Replacing" (or a new tag) is placed on the scan (and front, back, or both is selected, and maybe a reason drop-down - just like in the crop area). The tags then get reviewed by the Level 8s (just like the IR). One Level 8 must agree, a second one must also agree, before a third then confirms it (the person applying the tag may not be one of the members in the process). Once confirmed, then when a member replaces the scan, it is a "true" replacement. The original is "deleted", the second is added, and the second submitter gets the "credit" (points also, possibly). This would ensure that it's not just 1 or 2 ranters who are going after someone but members who are truly trying to improve the visibility of the site.

Ok, improve that process, and then I'll approach Admin about it.