1968 Panini Cantanti Non-Sport Forum

I just saw the Magic the Gathering ruling about using the foreign word that's on the card, e.g., if it says "agua", put agua, not water. The logic being someone will search for agua and it should say on the card what they're searching for, not the inputter's translation. But it seems to me like proper nouns might be a different matter.

If a Spanish baseball card translated a Red Sox team card as "Los Calcetíns Rojos", should that be the card name, linked to the Red Sox PID? Will people be searching for that particular translation more than searching for "Red Sox" from that set?

Same thing more or less in music. "Barbara e Dick" is Italian for Barbara and Dick. However, the duo was actually known primarily around the world as "Bárbara y Dick", because they're Argentinian. Does the MTG logic apply to them, too?

What if hypothetically a Spanish set titled a Temptations card "Las Tentaciones"? MTG logic? Use the Spanish for the card name, and use the main Temptations PID?

In preparing this checklist, I had only kept the Italian for the Italian bands who primarily/only used Italian for their names. I omitted the definite article "i" from some cards because the band was primarily known without an article, just a single plural nickname. That'd be an error, technically, wouldn't it? Like how Cream's card in this set is titled "The Cream", except that's a gray area whether it'd be an error because they still used it a bit even after they officially dropped the "The"...but so, should that card be "The Cream" and then linked to a "Cream" PID? (A PID which doesn't even exist yet. Lotta work for me to do.)

What about ampersands? Should I revert them to "e" because that's what's on the cards? "Sonny e Cher" instead of "Sonny & Cher", but linked to the latter's PID? (Another PID which doesn't even exist yet.)

Since teams don't get PIDs, putting the foreign language in the Name field is fine, but you'd need to select "Boston Red Sox" from the Team selector. (We do not have aliases for Teams.)

Which brings us to the foreign spellings of actual names - this is where the alias feature comes in handy, expecially for foreign names where they can be spelled a variety of ways when transliterated. In the case you describe, however, it may be prudent to simply put in the foreign spelling and enter the corresponding PID for that name manually. (Only use the alias if it's a generally used alternate spelling or name usage. Think Grand Funk Railroad and simply Grand Funk for a proper use of alias.)

So, enter the checklist as it is written, and then we can go back in and make the proper links. Yes, a lot of work, but it's best for the site.

Well, that all makes perfect sense now. Wish I'd thought of it before I edited the checklist, lol. So I've got a little backtracking to do. But not much, and the checklists will be much easier to negotiate going forward. I agonized for about 10 minutes just trying to decide which of three plausible candidates for Bruno Martino I should use. "Use what's on the card" makes things soooo much simpler!

At first I thought Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass was a group and I'd have to separately link that act's PID, Herb Alpert's individual PID, and the Tijuana Brass's separate group PID. But it turns out it was just a conceit Herb Alpert used on his first album, wherein he himself dubbed extra brass tracks onto his own solo work and then fancifully gave himself a plural nickname. So, "Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass" is just Herb Alpert, solo, with a shifting cast of background players later on.

I suppose when his last name is the "A" in "A&M Records" that he can do as he pleases. LOL.

First person I thought of on A&M records, for whatever reason, was Ali Thomson. He scored a minor hit in 1980 (peaked at #15 in August 1980) with "Take A Little Rhythm" (which was the title track of his first of two albums). Most people are familiar with his older brother's band, Supertramp (Dougie Thomson was their bassist for their most notable albums and hits). Does anyone even remember this guy? Or am I the only one? (Amd, yes, I have both of his albums on vinyl.)

Didn't remember the artist, but did remember the song. Great "forgotten" hit squeezed between 70's disco and 80's pop explosion.

https://youtu.be/czUPSwx8oSI 
 

Never heard that song before, it's very pleasant, verrrrrry "1980", has a sweet hook, a cool pre-chorus. The chorus is a little derivative. It's like he had just listened to one of his older brother's albums and was inspired to write his own "[Verb] a Little [Noun]" song.

I have no recollection of the song or the artist. I was just starting what would be my career job when the song charted and didn't follow music like I had when I was younger.

I can see why it went to #4 on the AC chart as it has that kind of vibe. And it scores bonus points for incorporating a vibraslap.