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weekendroady
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| Monday, January 10, 2022 7:21 PM | |
I have the following card of Jeff Ballard that has always appeared to be part of the 1994 Quintex team issue. However, unlike the other cards in this set, it has a Nationwide Insurance sponsor logo on the back (not Quintex). Everything else looks exactly the same as the Quintex cards.
The story behind this card is interesting. I'm a Ballard supercollector and actually received this card from Ballard himself after he looked through my collection and found stuff in his collection I didn't have. I actually have seen this card on ebay a couple times though, both times autographed, so it wasn't something that didn't circulate at all.
I'm curious if any of you have suggestions as to how this card should be catalogued, I've never been able to resolve it myself.
 
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stevejrogers
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| Monday, January 10, 2022 7:55 PM | |
I'm thinking the Quintex set, as a error variation that was corrected.
Probably the sponsor changed at the last minute and a few original cards got by quality control.
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weekendroady
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| Monday, January 10, 2022 9:55 PM | |
Interesing idea. He's not even in the regular set, but seems to make sense to add him (all cards were #NNO as it is) with a VAR note
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BigEd76
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| Tuesday, January 11, 2022 12:52 PM | |
If he wasn't intended to be part of the SGA, he can't be in the primary checklist. (The Lieber was distributed separately afterwards but was intended to be the 30th card.) According to Beckett, there were possibly other cards with Nationwide sponsors on the back, so we can create a promo set and add cards as needed.
https://www.tcdb.com/Inserts.cfm/sid/256210/
Two questions:
1. The Lieber in the main checklist is autographed. Is that how they were distributed, or do we need to remove that image?
2. Do we know if the Nationwide-sponsored cards were ever available to the public? If not, they might be a backdoor/aftermarket situation.
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* Ed * L8 * Cards in my personal Collection are unavailable *
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C2Cigars
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| Tuesday, January 11, 2022 1:10 PM | |
What came to my mind was that Nationwide might have pulled it's sponsorship.
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bpaul14
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| Wednesday, February 16, 2022 8:13 AM | |
I have three of these type cards (Jay Bell, Dave Clark, and Jeff King). All three of mine have the Nationwide Insurance logo on the back. I received them by mail in 1995 directly from the Pirates. I had written the Pirates (and all MLB teams) in the spring of 1995 requesting pocket schedules and other promotional items they could send to me in the mail. Every team but the Yankees responded by sending pocket schedules, stickers, post cards, and previous year giveaways like these sets.
I too am puzzled about how to enter in my cards in TCDB. In the Variation/Promo set Big Ed created, there's only three cards, one of which I have (Jeff King). The other two, Bell and Clark, do not have a home at this moment.
It seems odd to me to refer to the Nationwide version as a Promo set while referring to the Quintex version as the official set. It seems to me that the Nationwide versions are a separate set that mayber weren't issued through a game night giveaway.
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weekendroady
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| Wednesday, February 16, 2022 8:34 AM | |
In my opinion it could be an in-between, a sort of "extension" to the original set in which the Pirates released additional cards during 1994 of the same template design but the Quintex sponsorship changed to Nationwide during this process. Of course, since these are #NNO's, there will never be an (at least easy) way to tell how many cards came out under the Nationwide banner.
I'm ok with having them in the promo slot for now until (and if) more data gets uncovered. I'm glad there are some other people who are aware of these cards now! I think perhaps a 1994 Pirates promotional schedule needs to get uncovered to maybe unlock some of the mystery here.
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bpaul14
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| Wednesday, February 16, 2022 8:48 AM | |
Big Ed,
Can you add the other two cards I have that aren't currently in the checklist for the Nationwide promo. It's Dave Clark and Jay Bell.
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BigEd76
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| Wednesday, February 16, 2022 9:29 AM | |
The Bell and Clark have been added.
There's not enough information out there about the Nationwide-sponsored ones to say if they were a fully separate giveaway at some point, or was Nationwide the original sponsor with Quintex replacing it, or vice versa, or something else. If there's a reason to split it off to a separate set, we have the tools to do it in one step.
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HarleyA
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| Sunday, April 3, 2022 10:43 PM | |
I have 34 of these that I've been trying to get some or any information on! I'd have to look again but they are all autographed but 2 I think.
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