2021 Topps Baseball Forum

I have submitted 113 prices for 2021 Topps John Kruk autos 52 of them were 70 years autos (43 Reg., 5 Gold #/25, & 4 Red #/10), not a single copy of the Black #/50 has ever surfaced (odd for such a heavily broken product). I was going to submit an IR to get the John Kruk removed from this set (it doesn't exist), but rather than do that and then play the waiting game, I spent 3 hours yesterday thoroughly researching the 70 years Black Auto Set. I visually 100% positively identified 43 subjects in this set typing in 2021 Topps 70 Years of Baseball Auto Black. I searched Ebay, Comc. and Mavin. That left 26 Players that didn't show up in the 1st search. I searched each individual by name on the websites above and even checked here on TCDB see if anyone owned any of the 26 in their Collection. Not a single 70 Years Black Auto #/50 for these 26 Players was found and not 1 of these 26 were claimed as owned on TCDB.Here's the list of Players NOT found in this Set:

1 - Alec Bohm
2 - Bobby Dalbec
3 - Bob Gibson
4 - Christian Yelich
5 - Dylan Carlson
6 - Fergie Jenkins
7 - Jo Adell
8 - John Kruk
9 - Jim Rice
10 - Juan Soto
11 - Jorge Soler
12 - Luis Gonzalez
13 - Mike Mussina
14 - Mickey Moniak
15 - Mike Trout
16 - Nomar Garciaparra
17 - Nate Pearson
18 - Omar Vizquel
19 - Ronald Acuna Jr.
20 - Ryan Mountcastle
21 - Tim Anderson
22 - Trevor Hoffman
23 - Tim Raines
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25 - Taylor Widener
26 - Yusei Kikuchi

If you own a Black Auto #/50 version  , or have evidence to dispute any players on this list please chime in, that will be helpful to getting the Updated list made (Right Now at 43 cards). Thanks

Could any of these be redemptions?

I never saw any redemption cards for any of the players listed here (or players not on the list). I know sometimes redemption cards exist (and the specific card is not even identified on the redemption), but that ( I JUST CHECKED EBAY FOR LIVE & COMPLETED REDEMPTIONS BEFORE FINISHING THIS SENTENCE) is not the case for 70 Years Autos (all of them), it appears ALL autos were packed out.

The link for completed listings (and this goes back 3 months before 2021 Topps went live):

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=2021+topps+70+years+auto+redemption&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=10&rt=nc&LH_Complete=1

One thing to consider is that there was A LOT of 2021 Topps printed.  Double from last year.  Perhaps unlikely but it is still possible that these cards are sitting in an unopened box somewhere.  

26 cards out of the supposed 69 cards (37.68%), that exists (if it were true), but haven't surfaced yet, would certainly be unbelievable, especially with the mass quantity that has already been broken down. The only 1 of the cards on the list that I am even iffy on is Touki Toussaint and that is because I couldn't find a parallel auto of him, all base 70 Years Autos. I do welcome any input to verify that any on the list I presented has a Black #/50 Auto. I just wish to have an accurate checklist for this set, and if a Player doesn't exist for this set then have him removed.

It's probably best to wait another month of two to see if they surface especially for such a heavily printed product.

I agree that waiting is a good idea and also agree with ketchupman36. Do we know with absolute certainty that even 30% or 50% of this product has been opened?

I would guess 70% or more of this product has been broken. Let's look at 1/1's for this set (70 years of Baseball Autos) that have been listed on Ebay since this product came out: Daniel Johnson (active listing), Nomar Garciaparra (active listing), Juan Soto (sold), Bob Gibson (sold), Sean Murphy (sold), Dane Dunning (sold), Jim Rice (sold), & Dylan Carlson (sold):

 https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=2021+topps++70+years+1%2F1&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&rt=nc&LH_Complete=1

8 - 1/1 card = 8 total cards + 61 that assuredly do exist = 69 total 1/1 cards in the entire 2021 Topps print run, how does even 8 - 1/1's make it to Ebay, when the 26 cards I have listed at a print run of 50 each = 1300 total cards do not? Please answer that question. The 26 cards in my list are nearly 20 times more common than the 1/1's (1300 ÷ 69). and yet there are none. Are any of the people on here saying wait going to do any research to find out if any of the 26 players have an auto in this set? I will wait as long as it takes, but waiting, does that mean I wait and then I research or does that mean I wait while others do it? I spent 3 hours researching (actually more than 2 months worth because the data covers this set since it was released) Every Card for the 69 players (supposed) in this set and I could not find a single example of any of  the 26 existing. I bought all of the John Kruk auto cards (except the 2 one of ones that have never surfaced) within 2 weeks of the release including 35th anniversary Gold #/50 & Red #/25, 70 Years Gold #/25 & Red #/10 and yet I am to believe there are 50 - Black 70 years Kruk autos that are in unopened material  2 months later. I'll resurrect this thread in 2 more months and see what everybody has found. I WILL PAY $1000 DOLLARS FOR THE 70 YEARS OF BASEBALL BLACK #/50 JOHN KRUK (NOT the black 35TH #/199, I already have it), find it send to me, and claim the $1000 reward and I'll even reimburse the shipping cost.       

Sorry, I almost forgot, another John Kruk auto I will pay $1000 + shipping for is the 

2019 Topps Legacy of Baseball Autographs 150th Anniversary #LBAJK John Kruk S2  #/150

It's listed right here:

https://www.beckett.com/search/?term=john+kruk+2019+topps

​​​​​​​It's been out since 2019 and I still haven't found one