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2021 Does SP = Schleprock?

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Pinkpony1967

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Joined: Jan 2021

Friday, March 5, 2021 6:48 PM

I have to agree . Odds twice as bad as 2020 and there's no way they didn't increase production . If the odds were the same from year to year then I'd be inclined to accept the production runs were similar from year to year .

OCHawkeye wrote:

I picked hanger boxes because I had one of each of those handy in front of me, but the gold seeding in all products are drastically different odds today vs 2018.

Look at blaster boxes:
2018 (10 ten card packs per box) = 1:11 packs = .909 per blaster
2019 (7 fourteen card packs per box) = 1:8 packs = .875 per blaster
2020 (7 fourteen card packs per box) = 1:14 packs = .500 per blaster
2021 (7 fourteen card packs per box) = 1:27 packs = .259 per blaster

And hobby boxes:
2018 Topps Series 1 Hobby Box (36 ten card packs) = 1:18 packs = 2.000 per hobby box
2019 Topps Series 1 Hobby Box (24 fourteen card packs) = 1:5 packs = 4.800 per hobby box
2020 Topps Series 1 Hobby Box (24 fourteen card packs) = 1:14 packs = 1.714 per hobby box
2021 Topps Series 1 Hobby Box (24 fourteen card packs) = 1:27 packs = .888 per hobby box

You're still trying to tell me that they're shoving the gold cards into other packed configurations and keeping the production runs the same? No way I say.

griffey423 wrote:

2 easy explanations for the concerns on this post:

1) Did you look at the pack odds of hitting a SP variation? They fall one every 69 packs of hobby and one every 24 packs of jumbo. So, they aren't in every box. More like one every 2.5 boxes.

2) The gold parallel odds on hanger boxes don't show that they have increased production. It shows that they are creating fewer hanger boxes and the cards are available in other products. Hit rates have always been better in hobby boxes, and Topps is creating a bunch more of that and less retail product. Topps has not increased production since 2018, of if they have it is a very slight increase. They haven't been able to over the last year due to COVID restrictions in the work areas. That doesn't mean that they won't increase when (if?) the world returns to normal. The demand is insanely high right now, as we all know.

griffey423

Posts: 651
Joined: Jul 2014

Monday, March 8, 2021 7:32 AM
All I can say is from opening multiple cases of multiple products over these same years is that at the end of my breaks, I have the same number of gold cards (+ or - a few). The pile of rainbow cards has been getting smaller each year, but those aren't serial numbered. ------------------------------- Always looking for baseball variation/error cards and anything Garrett Whitley or Ian Anderson

malouf22

Posts: 17
Joined: Mar 2021

Thursday, March 18, 2021 6:01 AM

i opened 1 hobby and 1 jumbo box. no sp's. 1 card #'ed to 2021, 1 platinum card #'ed 69/70, 1 camo #'ed 17/25. even pulling a numbered card #'ed to 25. the player was not a star and the card is not worth much. i did not even get my moneys worth on the 2 boxes. even the autos were of the crapestest rookies. however when every one is sold out due to flippers you have to buy when ever you can find them.

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