1995 Walt Disney Productions Disney Movies Pogs Non-Sport Forum

Bob, just like anything, practice makes perfect. Don't give up or get discouraged. Perhaps you should have tried a small/easy checklist for your first few submissions. A multi-panel Disney pog set without numbers or a known checklist was probably a bad place to start learning. For your next set, find a small, 10-15 card checklist or insert set and give it a whirl. I still get advise from senior members whenever I submit a checklist. It takes time get the hang of of them initially. Start out in the shallow end of the pool with arm-floaties and a noodle. Don't dive right into the deep-end! Cheers and good luck on the next one!

Thanks John, As you will see I'm not giving up, See Dan's reply below.

Regarding whether you list them as individuals, panels, or both completely depends on the mthod of distribution.

Panels can only be listed if that was the sole method of distribution. (Examples of this include, but are not limited to, Wax Box card panels, Star Company 3-card panel sets, multi-card sheets inserted into magazines.) Panels to my knowledge were the sole method  of distribution for certain POGS, as in the case of Disney Movies. The singles would be listed as well since they could be punched out and moved on the secondary market separately. Yes, that makes sense as well.

If the POGs were distributed through the "mass market" as individual entities, then the panels are NOT listable. (Examples of this include, but are not limited to, standard sports cards released in packs but found on ebay in 2-, 3-, and 4-card panels.) In this case, only the singles would be able to be listed. The POGS I have are either in 6-POG Panels [unpunched] and punched POGS that were originally in a 6-POG panel but must be matched.

(And I guess I should state that only sets that are confirmed to be complete, single sets can be listed at all.) Yes and No, Can I list panels that match my research? Say there is only 1 6-POG panel released is that listable OR 4-6POG panels as in the case of Mickey & Friends? If the research verifies the panels or singles, can I list them.

Did that answer the questions?

FINAL THOUGHT: Can we list the movies like 1994-95 Walt Disney Movie Pogs and use the SS format that you suggested earlier in the post? Think that would work if the panels are complete and verified with a complete CL? Going full cycle but now we have learned about complete checklisted panels or punched POGS from them.

Bob, I'm not 100% sure I understand your follow-up questions, but I'll give it a shot (as I usually do).

Yes and No, Can I list panels that match my research? Say there is only 1 6-POG panel released is that listable OR 4-6POG panels as in the case of Mickey & Friends? If the research verifies the panels or singles, can I list them.

You may only list panels if you have the complete checklist of the panels (i.e., which POGs were on which panels). You may NOT list them simply as Panel 1, Panel 2, Panel 3, etc. You must be able to identify which ones are on which panels - especially if the panels themselves have no numbers on them. (Reason for this - let's take the set you attempted here - you loaded images of 2 panels, but it was known that there were potentially 4. Without the proper labelling, someone has a panel that doesn't have an image and "guesses" they have Panel 3. Someone else has one, but doesn't know which it is and also guesses Panel 3. Finally, a third person comes along with both 3 & 4, and uploads the images. Person 2's collection is wrong because they really had panel 4 but since there was no way to identify which was which, things are now messed up - and until they go and look over every single item in their collection, they'll never know. And this is NOT a place we want to put the database in. This is why these half-hearted checklists are not allowed.) In all cases, the singles are listable, once the entirely of the set is verified.

FINAL THOUGHT: Can we list the movies like 1994-95 Walt Disney Movie Pogs and use the SS format that you suggested earlier in the post? Think that would work if the panels are complete and verified with a complete CL? Going full cycle but now we have learned about complete checklisted panels or punched POGS from them.

I don't know what you mean by "SS format". 

Simply put, if there are any questions about the checklist, you need to have them answered before posting the checklist.

Edited to resolve typos I introduced.

Yes and No 1st:

Say, I have a complete 6-POG Panel or the exact 6 POGs punched out. Extensive research indicates that this panel is a set of 6 POGS. Can this set be listed, either way or both ways.

Likewise, I received 4 Panels, 6 POGS each, sealed. This is a set of 24 POGS and they can be listed, because they are verified as a sealed set just like a FBox Set.

Research has led me to believe most of these POG sets are multiples of 6, so 6, 12, 18, 24 POG Sets are the standards.Even trademark sets as well, like a set of 48 or 54 are common. I think we can agree that 6 POGs/ panel equal a set or part of a larger set if in fact there is a larger set..

My Final Thought Listing

The following is the format you suggested on page 4. Now that I completely understand the whole verification, checklist and complete unpunched panel or ALL punched POGs from the panel, I believe your spreadsheet is how to do it. Here it is >

Say, I have a complete 6-POG Panel or the exact 6 POGs punched out. Extensive research indicates that this panel is a set of 6 POGS. Can this set be listed, either way or both ways?

So we're talking a set that consists solely of 6 POGs. And they exist in a 6-POG panel.

The "base" set would be the 6 individual POGs. Then, ONLY if they were only sold as a panel, the panel can be listed (as a related set). Panels can only be listed if that was the only method of distribution. Please keep this in mind. Site rule, per Admin.

Likewise, I received 4 Panels, 6 POGS each, sealed. This is a set of 24 POGS and they can be listed, because they are verified as a sealed set just like a FBox Set.

Not sure what a "FBox" is (oh, unless that was a typo and it was supposed to just be "Box Set"?) Anyway, if the set is really limited to just those 4 panels, then yes, you have what constitutes a "set" and it should be listed as a set. Again, if the set was available to buy from the manufacturer as individual POGs, then the panels are not listable.

Wow...8 pages on POGS....

kinda reminding me of a Styx song off Paradise Theater album...

just sayin...

Wow...8 pages on POGS....

kinda reminding me of a Styx song off Paradise Theater album...

just sayin...

Nothing Ever Goes As Planned?

LOL - Great album, by the way./

Jerry, Would you believe it? 8 pages of back and forth on POGS.....probably going for 10 ! lol.

Styx, ah memories of my youth...hmmm maybe not youth.....

Finally, thanks to the patience of our members, I believe I might finally be able to successfully list some sets.

Dan, that's perfect, I believe that allows me to go back and organize, put CLs together and find my original scans. Thanks, it was a "can of worms" to start. I think as in the case of numerous Disney Movies I will eventually be able to list most of them. That will take more research, a bit harder to do. FYI, I've also tracked down a real POG collector who knows everything ....POG !