1992-93 Upper Deck Basketball Forum

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Do'oh, could gave sworn I took care of that when I set up. Will fix in ~hour when I get home

Let's try this again....

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ceuhZLtR_5EID24LT-F4wXcZWWryc-inZ87FN8cGpc8/edit?usp=sharing

I have already explained in multiple replies in this thread exactly how these cards were made. There is no reason to create a Google Sheet for them. Every single card in Series 1 that was not a Short Print was available with BOTH holograms. Card #'s 32a (Magic) and 33a (Bird) were only available with the 1992 hologram and the #1 cards were only available with the 1993 hologram (except the Draft Card that isn't listed as a base card). Cards #'d 2-31 and 34-310 ALL have both versions of holograms. It's really not that hard to figure out. Read the "Trivia" section. Straight up and simplified. Over-complication of simple stuff is part of the reason this didn't take priority with me. Even if I did do it on the day I was told to move forward, somebody would have fussed about something non-sensical at some point afterwards. I'm sick of the complications people are making about stuff like this. It TRULY has nothing to do with Ed or Jim, so I hope you guys do not take offense with this reply!

After Dan's reply in May, there was nothing confirming each of the affected cards have both holograms, and as we've seen on other sets, we can't assume every card has both. The recent 1991 Ultra football one with the NFLPA small/large logos seemed to affect every card, when in reality it skipped whole teams or skipped a few players while affecting all the others in other teams. Same thing with 1991 Fleer football and the AFC logo alignment. This is just an easy way for the community to confirm both VARs exist, that's all. I believe all the cards we want to check have both VARs just from looking at my own set, but we want to do the research first before adding the cards, resorting, moving images, etc.

Dan isn't God OR Admin! He also had nothing to do with my research in this set. Look at all the other UD Hologram issues with cards from 1990 to 1993. They are mostly clear and came about from second printings of cards with a different hologram for the 2nd series of cards or Final Edition printings. Fleer has nothing to do with this set. I know what I am talking about with the 1992-93 UD NBA product. I bought thousands of packs of those cards when they were just released. All of the Series 2 packs included cards from the first series with the Series 2 hologram on the back. There is NO more research needed for this specific set! I've already done all of it. If people just doubt me for the heck of it, I'm done helping this site in any way. I was already sick of the barrage of crap from members here and I see why others have bailed now too!!!

A quick update on this one: 32a Magic and 33a Bird apparently were in Hi Series as well because there are cards with the 1993 hologram on them as seen below.

#32a Magic w/ 1993 Hologram

#33a Bird w/ 1993 Hologram