2019 Panini Phoenix Football Forum

I was looking to add the checklist for the Dual Patch Auto, and have a question. Is it necessary to associate each specific card # that is listed on the back of each card, i.e. DPA-NY for the Daniel Jones/Darius Slayton...or can you just use the numbering system that Panini has on their checklist? I ask because some of the cards are redemptions, and we may not know the official card "#" for who knows how long?  Or can you guess what it would be, based on other cards- for example the Lamar Jackson/Marquise Brown is most likely DPA-BAL(most cards I found on ebay use 3 letter city codes- Den, Phi, Ari, etc)

This is an absolute pain in the arse that Panini creates. They release checklists that list the cards with numbers, and then the cards come out and they are alphabetical. The true card numbers are the numbers on the cards themselves and that is what we use on TCDB. I know you will give stump147 and BigRay a break if you can upload the checklist with the correct letters (They are the two that tackle Panini messes the most here). I am actually going to suggest you message them. They will know best when dealing with this as they have taken it upon themselves to fix this crap Panini puts out. They may even have insight on Panini checklist patterns to card numbers as they have done it so many times each. Feel free to copy and paste this response into your meassage to them.

Ditto what he said. ^

Use the letters and guess at the correct ones. I suggest this mostly b/c you seem to have the right pattern for those already. I am also one of the members that is constantly PO'd by having to fix Panini CL's on here when someone lists them with #'s instead of letters. DPA-... is the way to go for the least amount of future work for us when the "numbers" are finally revealed. Panini's lettered card #'s rarely deviate from a specific pattern, so I say go for it with the DPA's.

Thanks for the replies, and I'm glad I asked before submitting.  I can only imagine the hassle it is to have to update all those checklists! It is difficult to hunt down the actual lettering for some of these cards- especially with some only in redemption.

One other question related to this specific subset- there are 2 diff Cincy DPA's(Finley/Boyd & Dalton/Mixon I think)...anyhow, the only one that has been on eBay is the Dalton/Mixon, and it is #'s DPA-CIN2.  Would the Finley/Boyd most likely be DPA-CIN, or DPA-CIN1?  Just wondering if there is any prior history to how Panini has handled something like that?  I guess that would be an "easy" correction later on, but I would like to do it correctly the first time.

Thanks for the help- as a newbie to this site, I have to say people have been very helpful at pointing me in the right direction to learn how to chip in around here, which is awesome!

I always recommend taking input from a few different people, as anyone and everyone can offer valuable insight. That said, in my experiences, it would be DPA-CIN, and DPA-CIN2. I'm not sure I've ever seen them use something like DPA-CIN1. 

well sorry, but i disagree to a point as i have in the past with this as well. I do not like guessing at card #'s for the set to a point. I can  understand one or two if the remaining set retained the same sequence, but Panini in a lot of cases does not maintain the same initials or abbreviations for alpha listings within the same sets. Therefore if a individual has a card in hand and is looking for a certain card# and someone guesses at the card, that person is not able to search by card# and will be looking for awhile to find it ending in confusion, especially if they are inexperienced. i would rather see a CL goes as

DPA-1 player A

DPA-BB player b

DPA-CC player c

DPA-4 player d

DPA-5 player e

DPA-DD,  player f ---etc etc and then fill in the remaining alpha sequence as they are found and just submit the IR to reorg in alpha sequence. 

in that case it could CIN1 or it could something else.. WR, or first intitial of each player last name, never know.