1986 Kondritz Ozzie Smith (unlicensed) Baseball Forum

Can we get clarification here.  Your quote from Mr. Kondritz, "... nor did I ever produce sample cards."   And now you're saying Samples were produced.  If Mr. Kondritz said no Samples and Baseball Cards Magazine made their own set of unauthorized, i.e., counterfeit, samples then they shouldn't be listed.

Nowhereman317 wrote:

Coleman Front

Coleman Back

OK here's the Coleman samples I have.  They are diffentent than the ones suspected to be fake. these appear to have come in Baseball Cards Magazine in spring of '86. I still think there are some more Kondritz cards out there to be documented.  I swear I've seen a panel like this for Todd Worrell.  I'm going to check my LCS next time i'm out there.  Pretty sure there were more Kondritz cards in his Cardinals binder. I was bugging him for a while to see if he had any of the Ozzie ones somewhere in a binder.  Should I list these as PROMO for the Coleman set?

So I read through the posts linked and it appears I have the same Coleman panel that Nowhereman317 has.  He is correct the panel is from the Spring 1986 Baseball Cards Magazine, and is obviously a widely released promo/sample. If Mr. Kondritz didn't produce samples it's interesting that BCM would produce "samples" on their own for such a regional issue. They are obviously trying to promote the Kondritz sets.  It would be neat to find out what the back story is re: why these were done by BCM. 

Missing the key part. He didn't produce "samples" that were simply stamped sample. I honestly glossed right over the Vince Coleman part in the original post from the guy in my Ozzie group. Wade and Mr Kondritz were talking about some Coleman samples that surfaced similar to the Ozzie ones that were cards from the sets stamped sample on the back. I don't currently have examples but I have seen them before as well. The ones from the magazine are legit. I imagine people got their hands on stacks of the same card and decided they would sell better as "samples". I took me years to track down a set of the Ozzie ones I could afford. I had only found 1 at a card shop. They had a bunch of that one card but none of the others in the set. I just thought that was kind of odd. Lots of stuff like that makes it's way out when these little companies close.