1989 Donruss Baseball Forum

I've been handling a few IRs related to this Grand Slammers insert set where some of the backs have the black bars on the border (left picture below) and others don't (right picture below), and we have an issue in the database where a few users filled in spots with back images that may or may not belong and they don't have these cards in their collections, so this seems to be somewhat of a mess.

Anyone that owns these cards in their collections, I need to know if your specific player/color combinations have the correct back image in the database or if they need to be removed.

Here are all of the VARs, what is mismatched between TCDB and COMC, what matches, and what we need to verify:

MISMATCHES!
1 Canseco, Green > Blue VAR = TCDB back image has bars, COMC has NO bars
1 Canseco, Purple > Red VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars, COMC has bars, bars verified by jsmalls
3 Weiss, Purple > Red VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars, COMC has bars
4 McReynolds, Blue > Purple VAR = TCDB back image has bars, COMC has NO bars, NO bars verified by cdorso
4 McReynolds, Green > Blue VAR = TCDB back image has bars, COMC has NO bars, NO bars verified by cdorso
4 McReynolds, Yellow > Green VAR = TCDB back image has bars (expected NO), NO bars verified by cdorso
5 Greenwell, Blue > Purple VAR = TCDB back image has bars, COMC has NO bars
5 Greenwell, Red > Yellow VAR = TCDB back image has bars, NO bars verified by scottzoe
5 Greenwell, Yellow > Green VAR = TCDB back image has bars, NO bars verified by scottzoe
6 Winfield, Purple > Red VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars, COMC has bars
7 McGwire, Purple > Red VAR = TCDB back image has bars, COMC has NO bars
7 McGwire, Red > Yellow VAR = TCDB back image has bars, COMC and ebay have NO bars
8 Hernandez, Red > Yellow VAR = TCDB back image has bars, COMC has NO bars
8 Hernandez, Yellow > Green VAR = TCDB back image has bars, COMC has NO bars
10 Tartabull, Purple > Red VAR = TCDB back image has bars, COMC has NO bars, NO bars verified by kcjays
10 Tartabull, Yellow > Green VAR = TCDB back image has bars, COMC has NO bars
11 Barfield, Green > Blue VAR = TCDB back image has bars, COMC has NO bars
11 Barfield, Purple > Red VAR = TCDB back image has bars, COMC has NO bars
11 Barfield, Red > Yellow VAR = TCDB back image has bars, COMC has NO bars
12 Burks, Red > Yellow VAR = TCDB back image has bars, COMC has NO bars, NO bars verified by scottzoe
12 Burks, Yellow > Green VAR = TCDB back image has bars, COMC has NO bars, NO bars verified by scottzoe

MATCHES
1 Canseco, Blue > Purple VAR = TCDB and COMC images have NO bars
2 Marshall, Blue > Purple VAR = TCDB and COMC images have NO bars, verified by dodgercards
2 Marshall, Purple > Red VAR = TCDB and COMC images have bars, dodgercards has this one AND one with NO bars
2 Marshall, Red > Yellow VAR = TCDB has NO bars, verified by dodgercards
2 Marshall, Yellow > Green VAR = TCDB has NO bars, verified by dodgercards
3 Weiss, Blue > Purple VAR = TCDB has NO bars, verified on ebay
3 Weiss, Green > Blue VAR = TCDB and COMC images have NO bars
4 McReynolds, Purple > Red VAR = TCDB and COMC images have bars
4 McReynolds, Red > Yellow VAR = TCDB and COMC images have NO bars
5 Greenwell, Purple > Red VAR = TCDB and COMC images have bars, scottzoe has this one AND one with NO bars
5 Greenwell, Green > Blue VAR = TCDB and COMC images have NO bars
6 Winfield, Blue > Purple VAR = TCDB and COMC images have NO bars
6 Winfield, Red > Yellow VAR = TCDB and COMC images have NO bars
6 Winfield, Yellow > Green VAR = TCDB and COMC images have NO bars
7 McGwire, Blue > Purple VAR = TCDB and COMC images have bars
7 McGwire, Green > Blue VAR = TCDB and COMC images have NO bars
7 McGwire, Yellow > Green VAR = TCDB and COMC images have NO bars
8 Hernandez, Blue > Purple VAR = TCDB and COMC images have bars
8 Hernandez, Green > Blue VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars, verified by cdorso
9 Stubbs, Blue > Purple VAR = TCDB and COMC images have bars, dodgercards has this one AND one with NO bars
9 Stubbs, Purple > Red VAR = TCDB back image was recently removed, NO bars verified by dodgercards
9 Stubbs, Red > Yellow VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars, verified by dodgercards
9 Stubbs, Yellow > Green VAR = TCDB and COMC images have NO bars, verified by dodgercards
10 Tartabull, Blue > Purple VAR = TCDB and COMC images have bars, verified by kcjays
10 Tartabull, Green > Blue VAR = TCDB and COMC images have NO bars
11 Barfield, Blue > Purple VAR = TCDB and COMC images have bars, verified by jsmalls
12 Burks, Blue > Purple VAR = TCDB, COMC and ebay images all have bars, verified by scottzoe
12 Burks, Purple > Red VAR = TCDB and COMC images have NO bars

NEED VERIFICATION FROM TCDB USERS
1 Canseco, Red > Yellow VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars
1 Canseco, Yellow > Green VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars
2 Marshall, Green > Blue VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars
3 Weiss, Red > Yellow VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars
3 Weiss, Yellow > Green VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars
6 Winfield, Green > Blue VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars
8 Hernandez, Purple > Red VAR = TCDB back image has bars (expected NO)
9 Stubbs, Green > Blue VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars
10 Tartabull, Red > Yellow VAR = TCDB back image has bars (expected NO)
11 Barfield, Yellow > Green VAR = TCDB back image has bars (expected NO)
12 Burks, Green > Blue VAR = TCDB back image has bars (expected NO)

Verifying Mike Marshall #2 that I own:
2 Marshall, Purple > Red VAR = TCDB back image has bars
2 Marshall, Purple > Red VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars - this version needs to be added to the checklist after all cards are verified
2 Marshall, Red > Yellow VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars
2 Marshall, Yellow > Green VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars
2 Marshall, Blue > Purple VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars

2 Marshall, Green > Blue VAR - I believe does not have a bar, but I do not own this version.

I own 6 versions of #9 Franklin Stubbs:
9 Stubbs, Purple > Red VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars
9 Stubbs, Red > Yellow VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars
9 Stubbs, Yellow > Green VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars
9 Stubbs, Green > Blue VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars
9 Stubbs, Blue > Purple VAR = TCDB back image has NO bars
9 Stubbs, Blue > Purple VAR = TCDB back image has a bar

I believe all color combination variations have a NO bars. There is one specific color combination for each player that has a bar on the back.  Thank you Ed for creating a forum for discussion.

Looking forward to future 1990 and 1991 Donruss Grand Slammers Border and Back Bar variation discussions. 

Thanks! I've updated the list. If anyone else is able to verify what they own, let us know!

I don't think you need this verification, but just in case:   
I have 2 Tartabull cards, Blue to Purple (with bars) and Purple to Red (without bars).

Also have one that is pretty much Purple all across the top. Left is very slightly darker but not blue. Bottom the same way. Definitely different when compared to the one that I have with Blue to Purple. Back of card does have bars.

Those two help confirm research. Thanks!

This is what I can confirm in hand

5 Greenwell, Purple > Red - Have both with and without bars
5 Greenwell, Red > Yellow - Have one with no bars
5 Greenwell, Yellow > Green - Have one with no bars

12 Burks, Blue > Purple - Have one with bars
12 Burks, Red > Yellow - Have one with no bars
12 Burks, Yellow > Green - Have one with no bars

Scott

Thanks Scott!

Bumping this one to see if anyone else can assist.

From what I can determine, cards #1-6, Purple > Red are the only ones with bars (and #2 Marshall and #5 Greenwell were confirmed to have both with and without), while cards #7-12, Blue > Purple are the only ones with bars (and #9 Stubbs was confirmed to have both with and without).

Last call, then I'm going to start submitting IRs for the appropriate fixes