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are any of you cheese heads concerned about Rogers?  Or is this just Aaron trying to make the team squirm because they drafted a quarterback a year ago?

just curious what the fans of that team are thinking...

mark 

On one hand Aaron is acting like a baby wanting his ball or he'll go home. On the other hand, you have a Packer management team that has had, what....like 25 years of 2 of the best quarterbacks in the league? And to show for it, they have won 2 Super Bowls!?!?

That is a lot of wasted talent....soooo, I really don't know what to think.

Both sides are at fault here.  My prediction that Aaron Rogers will play for the Packers in 2021.

TL;DR: Management fired his QB coach, and was out of sync of the immediate needs versus production and bad draft decisions.

Keeping up on it over the years, if Packer management had done it properly, it could have been Rodgers and Brady year after year.  I honestly side with A-A-Ron on it because its a culmination of mis-managed events.  After the super bowl win, they were back in the NFC championship game but the defence was the weak point.

Instead of trying to trade/free agent proven defenders, they wasted picks on the defensive side of the ball rather than seeing the near term needs of OL/Skill position since both were aging at this point.  Then he gets hurt for a few years because OL wasn't there, so they draft and get OL help which helped protect but there were no improvements in skill or DL support and Aaron was basically told, here are your skill players and this is what you get.

The team then proceeded to continually draft defence without addressing skill position and Aaron was starting to work with what he had available.  Then the team fires his QB coach of over 10 years without consultation.  Then Aaron builds up the rapore and timing with skill position and Aaron publically lauds one of the players and then it immediately cut.  So, an entire summer working with a receiving crew and getting that timing and it blows up.

Then finally, they get pieces in place and they are on the rise again only to falter either by a shoddy defence or inept playcalling.  Watching the games, you can always tell when he has the helm or when he is saddled because the team flow is different.  Plus, who kicks a field goal when the defence gives up a touchdown each drive and expects to win?

I've never been a fan of Rodgers, though I will say he has talent.  My only problem with the whole issue is if he's been so upset then why didn't he ask out last year or even at the end of the season?  It also sounds like this hasn't been a recent development, so when his contract was up in 2018 why did he resign if he didn't get along with management?

I don't put all the blame on him obviously, as the management hasn't been the best the last few years, but they are still fielding highly competitive teams.  I guess my takeaway from this is a lot of people compare him to Tom Brady.... what if the Packers organization ran their team like the Patriots how many titles would Aaron have?  Well, first off as much as I don't like Brady, he's still the better quarterback, and second, as much as I don't like Belichek, the Packers don't have a coach that can match him.  So those two factors kind of makes the argument moot.  Furthermore, there were a lot of rumblings about Tom Brady not being happy in New England the last couple years, and to his credit, he never made it much of a public issue.  He said he was leaving and that was it.  He planned his exit in advance giving the team and other teams notice that "hey, we have a shot at this guy", and he bolted.  Aaron could have done the same if he wanted.  Also, he's no spring chicken, throwing a hissy fit because the team drafted a replacement that would be ready when/if he was ready to move on or retire makes him look bad.  Alex Smith watched as the Chiefs drafted Mahomes and in the year Patrick learned on the bench, Alex still had a good season and made the playoffs.  Was Alex Smith as good as Aaron Rodgers?  No way, but still he handled it gracefully.  If I remember right, when Rodgers was drafted by Green Bay, the Packers had a pretty good quarterback who had some accolades himself and probably wasn't happy about another QB being drafted.

As a Packer fan and cheesehead I have mixed feelings about this. I think it's about 50/50 that he is their QB next year and I have mixed feelings about it. This team hasn't been committed to thinking short term and trying to put the best team around him so if you are thinking what is best long term maybe trading your aging QB coming off an MVP season brings you the best return you will ever get? I'm actually OK with moving him for a great haul only because this team refuses to really go for it in winning short term. A trade might be best for both parties.

I like the Alex Smith commnets...he handled his situation with class and no drama....

mark

Now the shoe is on the other foot. Now he can relate to how Favre must have felt back in 2008. I call it karma.

I love this thread and the comments in it! I was a Packers fan before Favre came long and also before NC got the Panthers team. Rodgers really shouldn't be fussing about GB drafting Love last year in the first place. Aaron was part of the reason that Favre had a problem with GB management. Now Rodgers is suffering the exact same fate and going public with his frustration the exact same way that Brett handled the situation. I just wish Aaron had whined about it before the Panthers added Sam Darnold to the roster! Carolina would have given up a ton to get him a few weeks before the draft. They really wanted Watson until all the sexual assualt stuff came out about him. The Panthers really like to get players from the Carolinas whether they were born here or just played here. Watson would have been a great attraction for the Panthers. But then stuff hit the fan and took that option off the table. The Panthers don't deal with drama, especially potential law-breaking drama. Tepper has continued the mantra that Richardson set from the beginning, even though Richardson may have done some bad stuff himself.

Back to the Packers though... without Rodgers, they have nothing. That team is not a contender without him and Love doesn't have the experience or skills yet to lead any NFL team to the playoffs. GB drafts QB's all the time, but then they trade them away to desperate teams over the next year or two. Matt Flynn was a good example and I know there are several more since then. But GB got those guys late in the draft, not in the first couple of rounds. I think Aaron's gripe is legit, but he didn't handle it well and he waited WAY too late to complain about it. I think the QB coach change might have been the trigger. GB needs OL help and DB help and they only draft a little bit of either each year. But when they do draft those positions, they already need help at other positions due to age or free agency. They let way too many players walk away in free agency that would be easy to keep in "Titletown" with a little extra money! The Panthers kind of have the same issue. Both teams spend too much money on one player and then let the players around the "star" walk away when they demand more money. Nobody is teaching these "kids" (in most cases) how to be a team player. Stars are leaving teams left and right to chase the money and they get nowhere in the end. A great example is Josh Norman. He was a fantastic cornerback and still is, but when is the last time you heard his name?! He is probably the best CB the Panthers ever had in any way and he demanded $15 million a year. The Panthers offered $14 million and he refused. He's been stuck in Washington since then and nobody even mentions his name anymore. He's still good, but nobody throws his way and they just torch the other side of the field. Nothing that Norman can do about it! Washington can't afford to fill the other CB spot with a spectacular CB or even a Safety to back up the opposite CB. I may have gotten off-topic by now, but I still wish Aaron had spoke up sooner. He could've been in Charlotte throwing the ball to DJ, Robby and McCaffrey. And the hand-off to CMC would have made him happy every time CMC busted through for a 1st down!

Josh Norman is in Buffalo now. By the way...seems he missed about half the games with covid.  free agent now.

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