They throw Caution at every track for rain.That has never changed. Just at road courses they don't go out and dry the track. The late caution there was rain on the track in turn 2 so no choice, If someone hits the wet track then could be worse wreck and who knows how many could be involved. And after the wreck Harvick had last year at Texas if they see rain they throw caution, Its up to oyu if you wan tto pit. Most did some didn't. Then alot overdrove to get to the front and took themselves out of the race
Bolo_Mk_LX wrote:
They didn't have much of a choice on th rain caution,
Every team had the option to stop, if they wanted to put on wet tires....
Caution wasn't needed....
Late cautions have become a staple the last couple decades,
Unless you are well over 70 you wouldn't have had a chance to see 2 new winners in the first 2 races. Read this morning it has only happened twice, first 2 years of NASCAR 1949 and 1950.
I like the inclusion of more road courses and fewer 1.5 mile tracks. I also wouldn't mind more small tracks.
Shaw Racing wrote:
I thought race was great as well, And I don't remember 2 drivers winning the first 2 races in my lifetime. Just before the rain Caution I had all 8 of my drivers in the top 15, Then all hell broke loose and I think I had a few in the late 20's. Oh well that's racing. On to Homestead
mkb wrote:
I thought the race was pretty good, definitely better than the truck race to me
And Christopher Bell won his cup first race which was pretty exciting, same for Ty Gibbs in Xfinity
spazmatastic wrote:
You are right about practice and qualifying for this weekend. I was thinking it was all road courses this year. They didn't get much of that last year at the Daytona OR Indy RC's even though it was the 1st time the Cup Series was on them. They will have practice for the Dirt Race in Bristol and the season-ender at Phoenix though! Unless NASCAR is just changing crap on the fly, I thought ALL road courses were getting at least a practice session. "New Tracks" does not include Watkins Glen or Sonoma but I heard they would get practice on those as well.
Shaw Racing wrote:
No practise or qualifing this week, cause they were there last year. Just at new track and superspeedways. I hope Truex has dame car cause he was loghts out fast at clash and if he didnt get into the mud I don't think anyone eould have caught him.
spazmatastic wrote:
I wasn't putting the full blame on BK. I know Joey tried to block him. But those 2 tend to wreck each other a lot. They act more like enemies than teammates. If they would stop being so self-centered, they'd both win a lot more races. Thinking only about yourself instead of the entire team creates friction b/t teammates. And they create a habit of racing each other harder than they should by trying to always one-up the other one. You don't see Blaney racing them like that. He's always trying to help them when he's behind them, not trying to find his chance to get in front of them just because he can.
I was fine with the single-file racing to get the laps in quicker due to the time of night. Plus, it's exciting to keep wondering who jumps out of line first and who follows them. I miss the tandem racing. NASCAR hated it, but I thought it led to the best racing. It also showed great skill by the drivers to be able to lock their bumper to the car in front of them and stay there for a while. It also led to some great finishes of 3-4 pairs of cars trying to cross the line first.
I can't wait to see the road course race this weekend. With practice and qualifying there this year, it should be a pretty good race.
I'm with you 100% get rid of some of the cookie cutter tracks, and get more Short tracks.
stump417 wrote:
Unless you are well over 70 you wouldn't have had a chance to see 2 new winners in the first 2 races. Read this morning it has only happened twice, first 2 years of NASCAR 1949 and 1950.
I like the inclusion of more road courses and fewer 1.5 mile tracks. I also wouldn't mind more small tracks.
Shaw Racing wrote:
I thought race was great as well, And I don't remember 2 drivers winning the first 2 races in my lifetime. Just before the rain Caution I had all 8 of my drivers in the top 15, Then all hell broke loose and I think I had a few in the late 20's. Oh well that's racing. On to Homestead
mkb wrote:
I thought the race was pretty good, definitely better than the truck race to me
And Christopher Bell won his cup first race which was pretty exciting, same for Ty Gibbs in Xfinity
spazmatastic wrote:
You are right about practice and qualifying for this weekend. I was thinking it was all road courses this year. They didn't get much of that last year at the Daytona OR Indy RC's even though it was the 1st time the Cup Series was on them. They will have practice for the Dirt Race in Bristol and the season-ender at Phoenix though! Unless NASCAR is just changing crap on the fly, I thought ALL road courses were getting at least a practice session. "New Tracks" does not include Watkins Glen or Sonoma but I heard they would get practice on those as well.
Shaw Racing wrote:
No practise or qualifing this week, cause they were there last year. Just at new track and superspeedways. I hope Truex has dame car cause he was loghts out fast at clash and if he didnt get into the mud I don't think anyone eould have caught him.
spazmatastic wrote:
I wasn't putting the full blame on BK. I know Joey tried to block him. But those 2 tend to wreck each other a lot. They act more like enemies than teammates. If they would stop being so self-centered, they'd both win a lot more races. Thinking only about yourself instead of the entire team creates friction b/t teammates. And they create a habit of racing each other harder than they should by trying to always one-up the other one. You don't see Blaney racing them like that. He's always trying to help them when he's behind them, not trying to find his chance to get in front of them just because he can.
I was fine with the single-file racing to get the laps in quicker due to the time of night. Plus, it's exciting to keep wondering who jumps out of line first and who follows them. I miss the tandem racing. NASCAR hated it, but I thought it led to the best racing. It also showed great skill by the drivers to be able to lock their bumper to the car in front of them and stay there for a while. It also led to some great finishes of 3-4 pairs of cars trying to cross the line first.
I can't wait to see the road course race this weekend. With practice and qualifying there this year, it should be a pretty good race.
I really enjoyed the race, even though my drivers ended up near the back by the end. It was exciting! For the record, the last time a NASCAR Cup season started with two 1st-time winners was 1950!!! Kinda hard to believe with all the great drivers that moved up to Cup in the 80's and 90's. Oops, I didn't see the couple of replies above this one before I started typing it.
Anyway, I expect Homestead to be pretty boring. It usually is and that's why they don't settle the championship there anymore. That's one track that I wouldn't mind NASCAR dropping from the schedule. I was thrilled to see the extra road courses added to the schedule several months ago. I've always loved watching the races at the Glen and Sonoma. Adding the Charlotte Roval in 2018 and the huge boost in attendance for that race really told NASCAR that they needed to add more of them. Last year they were forced to add some due to the pandemic. But I was at that 1st Roval race and there were over 100K fans there. It was the largest crowd CMS had seen in a decade! Its continued sucess and the ratings that the unscheduled road course races got last year forced NASCAR to go for it. I can't wait to see the new road course races!
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I'm all for giving the axe the Texas. Track was boring and forced North Wilkesboro to close. Las Vegas has produced some not too bad racing so it can stay. I like Kansas because it's the closest to me but it's gotten somewhat dull as well.
Still wish the races at Kentucky were as good as they were in the Busch/Nationwide series back in the day
And for new tracks, I think a cup race at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve would be awesome, and possibly a race at Iowa or Nashville would be cool
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I would love them to come to Canada, the Truck races at Mosport were awesome races and always were sold out. Last 2 races at mosport for trucks had more people than last Watkins glenn and Sonoma. i would be ok with Circuit Gilles Villeneuve as well. I agree Texas can go It gets boring in the middle, Same as Chicago and Vegas they just want me to take a nap during race
I think because Chicago and Kansas were slightly different shapes they could have good racing and I still believe that
And watch the first Busch series race at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve if you haven't, I think it's pretty good
Shaw Racing wrote:
I would love them to come to Canada, the Truck races at Mosport were awesome races and always were sold out. Last 2 races at mosport for trucks had more people than last Watkins glenn and Sonoma. i would be ok with Circuit Gilles Villeneuve as well. I agree Texas can go It gets boring in the middle, Same as Chicago and Vegas they just want me to take a nap during race
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Your right Chicago is gonme, but Kansas even there the races can get boring But its better than other's
Ya they had good races and turnouts in Quebec, for the 5 races they had there, Don't know why they stopped
mkb wrote:
I think Chicagoland is gone
I think because Chicago and Kansas were slightly different shapes they could have good racing and I still believe that
And watch the first Busch series race at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve if you haven't, I think it's pretty good
Shaw Racing wrote:
I would love them to come to Canada, the Truck races at Mosport were awesome races and always were sold out. Last 2 races at mosport for trucks had more people than last Watkins glenn and Sonoma. i would be ok with Circuit Gilles Villeneuve as well. I agree Texas can go It gets boring in the middle, Same as Chicago and Vegas they just want me to take a nap during race
ALL THREE national series are running Nashville this year, June 18th-20th. Should be fun to watch.
NASCAR has needed to drop some 1.5-mile tracks for a long time. There were just too many of them and they went to most of them twice every year. Dialing some back to just once a year was still not enough. All the same drivers were winning those races. Chicagoland wasn't really needed in the new line-up since they added Road America. It keeps a race in the region that should be even more enticing to fans that want to go to a race. Vegas became boring and that's why ISM reversed the track and it did make it more interesting (or am I thinking of Pheonix?). We'll see how long that lasts. Texas got boring too and that's why they changed that to the All-Star Race this year. Make the drivers run there at night under the lights. We'll see how long that stays entertaining in the future. The Bristol Dirt Race is the most exciting thing to me on the schedule this year! But a close 2nd is the race at COTA in TX. NASCAR hasn't run there before and every race I've seen there in other brands was really entertaining. I'll just be happy to see a race on TV at Sonoma and Watkins Glen this year after they didn't happen in 2020. Those were 2 of the races I always look forward to every summer.
The tracks that NASCAR will NEVER drop: Charlotte, Martinsville and Bristol! They are the closest tracks to all of the team shops and have a ton of history with them. Daytona and Talladega are the next batch because they are the biggest, most exciting races in NASCAR. I think Darlington and ATL stay around for a long time due to proximity and history as well and Dover is an exciting small track. I think for regional racing Watkins Glen, Sonoma, Michigan and New Hampshire will stay in future schedules. But Michigan could be dumped in the future since Indy is still "close-enough" to the area. It's a hard stretch to think NASCAR would ever drop Indy from the schedule or drop most races in the southwest.
I really like how NASCAR changed the Cup schedule for 2021, but I hope they don't make drastic changes yet, for 2022. Let this season play out and try it again in 2022 before making any changes to the schedule for 2023. This season has already been way more exciting than I expected from the first 2 races in each of the 3 National Levels!
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