Card Identification Forum

I just checked out the 1960 Baltimore News-Post Baltimore Orioles Scrapbook Cards checklist on the site and it VERY CLEARLY would not qualify for inclusion on this site based on the reasons given by Ed and yet there it is.  Based on that example alone, I would think this would also qualify.  I also noticed that BigEd76 did some editing work on that same set last month.  So the question really boils down to, why is one set of cards designed to be cut from a newspaper any different than the other? 

I only updated the Brand and Size on that set....didn't touch anything else

I don't see why your newspaper clipping is any worse than these newspaper clippings. Although PSA does grade these and for some reason that makes these newspaper clippings better than yours.

Dan - Thanks for the feedback.  However, I'm not sure that "Ed has laid out the reasons already" is a valid rebuttal to my response to his points.  Ed had some good things to consider but I think I addressed them.

Why is this not a trading card?  It seems to be a card that can be traded.  It was promoted as one by the newspaper that produced it as a "card" to be collected.  I would trade for one if I did not have it; as probably most collectors for that college. Is it the thickness of the card that you think is some sort of difference maker (compared to say a sketch of a player card cut from a milk carton) - which would be weird since by that logic, the thicker the card then the  more legitimate a trading card it it?

However, I think you are suggesting that this is not a trading card for some reason. Then are you saying it has to be be made by a card company if its not a trading card in order to be included?  If that is the case, when did coca-cola become a card company?  We have coke caps on the site.  We have milk caps from various milk companies on the site.  We have magnets from non card companies.  None of those are "trading cards".  And their prodicers are not card companies. If we are going down that road, then a lot of sets need to be removed from this site.

Look, I understand that this one is an odd one. I looked though the site's FAQ's and did not see any reason not to list it.  I feel it should be included but due to the unique nature tossed it out to the membership to see if someone could point out where I am wrong (as I know some on here probably know the FAQ's better than me).  If I am wrong then, OK, but I've yet to see a good arguement not to include it. But being unique should not disqualify it, although as pointed out earlier in this thread (thanks Bassbunny22 and UKBoogie) there is already a similar newspaper baseball set and in PSA so maybe not so unique.

Sportzcommish - Good point.  Gandy's senior year was 1988.  This is a college set (as noted in my original post the backs are unrelated to the front).  I'll double check on timing of issuance as it might have been end of season as opposed to preseason, maybe my memory of the timing was off.

Yokonashiwa - Yes, I beleive I can get the checklist.  I have 70 of the cards.  I still want to do some more research before I confidently say that is the whole set, if not it's close. 

Thanks!

From the FAQ about "Other Collectibles":

Other collectibles that are inserted into packs or boxes of traditional trading cards are allowed to be listed in order to fully document the inserts that were included.

Other items made by card companies, sold via card retailers, and authenticated by card grading companies are also allowable.

Listing items created by third parties printed with the likeness of cards (like plates, coffee mugs, and T-shirts) goes beyond the scope of the site

The set you describe doesn't meet any of these criteria.

And just because other items have been added here DOES NOT mean that they should be here. THe site is crowd-sourced, so anyone can add items that do not meet these criteria. Having these discussions helps us keep these types of sets off of the site.

Ok Dan- Why is this not a card?  Is it because it was cut out of something like a newspaper, milk carton, etc.?
 
I understand its a crowd sourced site and just because something else made it on here does bit make it correct, but if you are suggesting that things like milk carton "cards" which this is no different from this card from the newspaper don't belong you are going to alienate a lot of collectors from the site.  I know for me, if we yank all the cards cut out of things from the site its hardly a complete site worth using.  Cards from obscure sets like this one are one of the reasons I use this site.  I like many users use the site to find and track these sorts of card sets and find them much more meaningful than having listings of irrelevant decimal point variation cards that some users like.

Additionally, this is clearly not an "other collectible" like a coffee mug, plate, tshirt, etc.  Not even sure why you keep bringing that up.   If I laid this card on the table in between one of the cards you have deemed an approved card and a coffee mug, I can promise you that 99 out of 100 people would say its more of a card than a coffee mug (collectible).
 

The set that UKBoogie posted earlier (1970 Dayton Daily News Hand Cut) in the thread that PSA grades as a BASEBALL CARD -its in the baseball card category when you search PSA (which for some reason is relevant to some like you that PSA must bless it) seems to support that sets like these are cards.  So can you also explain to me if PSA is an authority that can rule on these things- either why PSA is wrong to have deemed a card cut from the paper a "card" or why this college set (which has multiple future NFL players) that I have is different than that set?

Thank You.

Definitely seems like it should be included.  If not, the other sets pointed out need to be removed

It's not on card stock, therefore not a card. A card cut from a box or carton is on card stock, making it a card.

Not trying to alienate anyone. Just trying to follow the rules and guidelines provided by the site's Admin.

It IS an "other collectible" because it is not a card - it's a newspaper clipping.

You asked, you got an answer. Sorry you don't like the answer you're getting.

So then just to be clear, the other newspaper clipping sets that were mentioned are going to be removed as well, right?  Also, there looks to be a bunch of pins listed, those should probably be removed as well since they are not trading cards.

They should be reported through the inaccuracy links on each set's page so Admin can review and remove as needed.