Card Identification Forum

I've had this Ozzie magnet for a while, but haven't been able to find much on them. My buddy just got a huge Ozzie collection which included a set of these, so now i do have a checklist and scans for all 6.

1 Ozzie Smith

2 Greg Jefferies

3 Tewksbury

4 Lankford

5 Rene Arocha

6 Pagnozzi

Getting the checklist added I can take care of no problem. I just don't know what to call them. I feel like I've seen the Ozzie listed as 95, but I'm not sure. The same cast appears in the 95 Topps teamset, so 1995 seems to fit. What should we call them? Mr. Goodwrench GM Parts, GM Parts Mr. Goodwrench, or just Mr. Goodwrench?

What card company made these?

I don't know (or care) who made them. I just know that I want them, especially the Ozzie and Lankford magnets.

The site cares, if we feel like following the rules laid out in the FAQ. If these were not made by a card manufacturer, they are not eligible for inclusion here. 

I didn't say I was going to add them or push him to add them either. I said that I don't care where they came from, but I want them in my collection. That doesn't have anything with them being listed on this site. I can see now why a lot of members are getting pretty ticked with you, Dan. Not EVERY reply is about something being listed here when it isn't eligible! You are talking to 2 long-time members that know what they are doing. He was also asking about should they be listed and how they were released. It's a search to find info, not to add them just because they exist. Everyone posting in this thread so far knows the rules and abide by them. It's pretty snarky of you to make this reply!

Replies in forums are meant for all members, new and old, so they all can know and understand the rules. I was not being snarky and I never said that it looked like you wanted them added. However, the question that I asked has not yet been answered leading me to believe that the answer is "no card company ".

Couldn't they just be named Mr. Goodwrench?

i am a somewhat new member to this site and i am still trying to learn how things work. i keep getting mixed signals on what follows the f.a.q.'s and what does not. for example the "set" in question:

1. are they cards? no, they are magnets. but, the database is full of listings that are not cards, we have stamps, stickers, metal coins, 7-eleven discs, medallions, paper picture packs, decks of playing cards, buttons, post cards and God knows what else. a magnet is just a sticker that is not permanently stuck.

2. were they made by a "card company", apparently not. but what card company made the 1966 East Hills Pirates set, the 1933 Blue Bird Grape Soda set, the 1948 Blue Tint (r346) set or any of the other hundreds of regional and obscure sets that make this hobby so fascinating.

3. were these magnets licensed? does not appear so. but they were distributed by one of the largest companies in this country so they are probably legitimate.

like i said, i am still new here and really love this site and i am happy that i have been able to add some things. i have no idea what the founder had in mind when the site was established but the site name is pretty darn specific, "TRADING CARD data base". Is this site limited to just trading cards - no, it has become pretty well diluted with products that were never meant to be "traded" in the historical context of the word and there are thousands of items here that are not "cards".

so where does that leave us, i don't know because i am not one of the decision makers. should we purge the database of all things that are not strictly "trading cards"? should we re-define the F.A.Q.'s, that are so heavily referenced but apparently not always followed, to allow products that don't currently meet the smell test. how are we going to handle "virtual trading cards"?

i know these issues have been discussed here many many times, but the fact that they continue to regularly come up in the forum means that there are some problems. this site is totally awesome and provides us with the ability to inventory our collections, trade our cards, interact with other collectors and escape from reality for a while. from a historical context, i think this site is by far the most important asset that this hobby has or ever will have. the amount of information here is beyond belief. where else can one go to see all of these beautiful artifacts, and all for free. it is simply incredible and it is all due to the idea that one person had to begin this undertaking and having the foresight to allow it to be crowd sourced, allowing everyone to contribute something. i hope admin has all of this information well protected so it can never be destroyed by some hacker because it would truly be the loss of a national treasure. thank you to all of you who make this site what it is.

I really like JRK's reply and it covers all the bases. However, unlicensed is not likely as these magnets have the team logo's on them. By that time in the 1990's all unlicensed products had the team logos airbrushed out, both on the helmet and the jersey. I think these are legit licensed magnets. It still doesn't mean they belong here until we can find out who produced them. But all the Pro Magnets sets from this same period are listed on the site and no cards were made to go with the magnets.

That was never a "card company" either, but all their magnet sets are listed here for multiple sports. Somebody needs to outline this and Admin has yet to do that. ProMags did have the official licensing logos on their magnets, but they still don't fit the specifics of a "card manufacturer". Their magnets were released nationally and in packs, so that DOES fit the spec's.

On top of all that, there are tons of "unlicensed products" on the site now. They are seemingly getting added weekly now. Anything "Broder" is good to go apparently, but QVC cards without a CL are no go. There is so much stuff on this site now that doesn't "fit" the guidelines but is still here anyway and more is getting posted every day. I am happy to see more and more stuff getting listed here, but a bunch of it doesn't actually fit the guidelines for the site. A line has to be drawn somewhere, but Dan is not the one that should be drawing that line. Stop acting like you are Admin when those close to you know that you are not. Honestly, you have been acting like you are God of this site for most of this year. I'm getting sick of it and there are a couple of other "Top" members that are ticking me off too. This ACTUAL SITE is fantastic, but the "holier than thou" members are driving me away more and more by the day!

Ok more information has come to light. One of the guys in the Ozzie braintrust remembers these being a stadium give away in 1994 sponsored by GM Mr. Goodwrench. 94 makes sense since that line up only existed in 94. Jefferies and tewkbury left after 94 and aroacha only played 94&95. They have team name/logos with player names which means they would not really be considered unlicensed. Being a stadium giveaway would qualify them as a Team Issue. According to the FAQ:

"Team Issue
Cards released by teams for giveaways. Usually no manufacturer noted"

Now whether they are considered cards, well Pro-mags. Considering, wouldn't they qualify for addition as Team Issue?