Card Identification Forum

Edit: Also, I "resolved" my own submission in the Inaccuaries Manager that I mentioned earlier so it would be removed from "Pending" and not cause confusion for someone else.

That was from me, my apologies. Things are clearer now, but still confusing, thanks Panini.

SunDevilCollection wrote:

I can work on the update set. I changed the Note1 to AU, MEM, SN99 to reflect what is on your card. It appears to have been switched back to SN99 only.

Many a good man has been driven mad by Panini. It's a confusing way for them to go about things, and without knowing that, your initial assessment of this situation makes perfect sense. The poor numbering on their own published checklists is just one of the issues; the inserting cards into later products is another. There's probably more too.

Have I ever mentioned that I don't particularly care for Panini? 

Panini is a problem. So much so that Admin has actually posted a warning on the page when one goes to add a Panini insert set!

Panini insert sets need to be verified by looking at the cards themselves. There is NO published checklist that has the correct card numbers. Panini issues their list with numerical numbers (incorrect), CardboardConnection copies that to their website (incorrect), Beckett publishes online with the numbers (incorrect). It turns out that TCDB winds up being the ONLY source that has the alpha card numbers listed. (Eventually, COMC gets there, when they finally get all of the cards from a particular set in house and available for sale.) Most ebay listings will use the erroneous numerics (and won't show the card backs).

Simply put, anyone who attempts to upload a Panini checklist needs to be ultra careful about what they are uploading.

Inserting autographed cards from one product into a later product is not a "Panini thing". Upper Deck does this all the time too. And it's certainly better than the alternative of throwing away signed cards which players don't return in time to insert into the intended product.

Fair point on Upper Deck. Not being a hockey collector, I forget about them. And since I can't speak to that point, I can't say for sure if they fit my below thoughts. Quick edit to add that I never said it was a "Panini thing", though; I just said it was an issue, and I'd say the same about Upper Deck.

I don't necessarily agree on the alternative, though I'll leave it with just one thought so I don't drag it out on the thread. If these were all on-card autographs, I'd agree with you 100%. But they're sticker autos. So to me, it seems most likely that they're printing the cards and hoping to get the sheets back - which would also explain why some AU sets (that use actual numerals) are skip-numbered. I don't know what other motivation a company might have to insert an "Update" set like this one into a future product instead of taking your Sammy Watkins stickers and putting him on the checklist for a future product, unless you already had this card sitting around waiting for an AU sticker to get slapped on it.

Seems to me that more cards are wasted if this is the method. It would be more efficient to only print the cards that you have stickers for, rather than a ton of cards that you might get sticker AUs for, but can't be released if you don't. Just my two cents; I have no proof that this is their method. 

bevans wrote:

Inserting autographed cards from one product into a later product is not a "Panini thing". Upper Deck does this all the time too. And it's certainly better than the alternative of throwing away signed cards which players don't return in time to insert into the intended product.

jasongerman9 wrote:

Many a good man has been driven mad by Panini. It's a confusing way for them to go about things, and without knowing that, your initial assessment of this situation makes perfect sense. The poor numbering on their own published checklists is just one of the issues; the inserting cards into later products is another. There's probably more too.

Have I ever mentioned that I don't particularly care for Panini? 

tcdbkrn wrote:

Edit: Also, I "resolved" my own submission in the Inaccuaries Manager that I mentioned earlier so it would be removed from "Pending" and not cause confusing for someone else.

That was from me, my apologies. Things are clearer now, but still confusing, thanks Panini.

SunDevilCollection wrote:

I can work on the update set. I changed the Note1 to AU, MEM, SN99 to reflect what is on your card. It appears to have been switched back to SN99 only.

Thankyou to all of you!!!