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hawkking
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| Sunday, May 14, 2023 10:52 AM | |
My holy grail of new features Uniform Team Fields is sinking faster than my White Sox playoff chances AND IT'S ONLY MAY!! It currently sits at #182 so about 6 months after my death it will be added. Being a college team collector this is the one feature I want more than anything. Does admin accept bribes???? Just kidding.
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Always looking for Blackhawk hockey, Notre Dame Football, White Sox and Bears Stuff. I have a plaque in my card room that says, "I could have been a millionaire but my mom threw out my baseball cards". How apropos!!! Collecting Chicago Blackhawks Hockey, Doug Wilson Hockey, Chicago Bears Older, Notre Dame Football in their college jerseys and Chicago White Sox.
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budler
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| Sunday, May 14, 2023 11:40 AM | |
Put a link to it. Maybe some of us will up its priority.
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hawkking
Posts: 899
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| Tuesday, May 16, 2023 10:46 AM | |
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Always looking for Blackhawk hockey, Notre Dame Football, White Sox and Bears Stuff. I have a plaque in my card room that says, "I could have been a millionaire but my mom threw out my baseball cards". How apropos!!! Collecting Chicago Blackhawks Hockey, Doug Wilson Hockey, Chicago Bears Older, Notre Dame Football in their college jerseys and Chicago White Sox.
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BigEd76
Posts: 3,668
Joined: Nov 2016
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| Tuesday, May 16, 2023 11:48 AM | |
Thinking of this one from a system level:
1. Would we need to assign this field for every single card in the database? Would a White Sox card with a White Sox uniform need this field set to White Sox by default, then any cards with differing uniforms would need to be updated manually?
2. How would this be displayed on a card's page? It probably wouldn't be linked the same way the secondary links below the images are currently done since that's tied to the Team field.
3. If someone searches "Chicago White Sox" at the top, are you requesting to include all cards that have this field set to White Sox even though the card may be assigned to a different team? Or should the search stay as is and cards with the new field only show up if "Advanced" is clicked and there's a checkbox or dropdown or something to include other teams besides the one assigned to the card?
4. If we have a draft pick card where the team assigned to the card is the pro one but the player is wearing a college or amateur uniform on it, you want this new field set to what the player is wearing?
I get why collectors may want a field like this, but geez that's a lot of maintenance.
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* Ed * L8 * Cards in my personal Collection are unavailable *
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hawkking
Posts: 899
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| Tuesday, May 16, 2023 12:02 PM | |
Ed I'm specifically looking for a second team box where a team could be added so it shows up in team searches. I collect all Blackhawks cards but there are several cards with players in Hawk jerseys assigned to teams they were traded to or from. Also I collect Notre Dame football cards in Irish jerseys no matter what the pro team is. You make a lot of valid points about the work involved and i would see this as a manually added thing done by people who collect these types of cards.
1. not sure it has to be added to every card? Not a programmer. Why couldn't it be an optional thing L8's could add to a card as needed?
2. Does it need to be shown as both teams? Again I'm only looking for it to show up and be counted under the team card counts.
3. I think option 2 would work best but I don't know how hard that is to accomplish.
4. I don't want the card set to what he's wearing. I'd want the card to show up on both lists. Like Notre Dame and Dah Bears for some Chris Zorich cards.
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Always looking for Blackhawk hockey, Notre Dame Football, White Sox and Bears Stuff. I have a plaque in my card room that says, "I could have been a millionaire but my mom threw out my baseball cards". How apropos!!! Collecting Chicago Blackhawks Hockey, Doug Wilson Hockey, Chicago Bears Older, Notre Dame Football in their college jerseys and Chicago White Sox.
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vrooomed
Posts: 14,276
Joined: Dec 2012
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| Tuesday, May 16, 2023 12:14 PM | |
1 - A database generally has fields available for every item. In this case, it would be a "secondary team" for each "card". Just like card Number, Name, Team, Note, and Note2 is available for every card (Non-sports, Gaming, and non-team sports do not have Team available to add/edit, but that's one of those "exceptions" that has to be coded separately). This would be another field that would still need to be available for every card. If it's only available for some cards, how does one turn that capability on (or off if it's determined to not be needed)? Do we have any other other fields for cards that work this way?
2 - So you're looking at this from a very narrow viewpoint - how does that count for others who actually only care about the team that's listed? How does an option like this affect the entire database? Card counts for teams across the board? Is having a card that shows someone in a Bears uni but listed with the Packers going to be handled the same a card that pictures the player as a Packer but listed with the Bears? What exactly are you attempting to accomplish with this feature (other than help just your collecting)?
I'm not trying to be mean here, but I want you to understand what Admin is seeing, and what is being asked. You brought your request to the forums. I would hazard a guess that if we brought 75% of the requests sitting in there right now, they are also only half-baked ideas that don't really take into consideration how the database would handle the request, and all the different scenarios and how they would play out.
This is why so many of the requests that are entered don't even make it to the rating stage.
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-- Dan -- Note: Please see my profile for more info regarding trading (section updated 10/25/2023). I have added a large portion of my inventory to the site, and currently have trading turned off (details are in my profile). I have (finally) unearthed my 2 very large boxes of Star Company minor league sets and they are available (email for details).
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hawkking
Posts: 899
Joined: Mar 2015
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| Tuesday, May 16, 2023 1:01 PM | |
Yep Dan I'm trying to improve my collecting experience and I'd venture to say most new feature items are generated off that concept. Me being a team and or player collector should be just as important as the guy/girl who collects sets, brands or sports.
Your #2. I'd envision that both cards showing up under both teams lists.
If this falls under the category of half-baked ideas then so be it. It doesn't hurt to ask and I'm sure it won't be the last idea of mine to be judged by the leadership as so. I'm not trying to make this my database but everyone's.
This is still thee best card place on the planet and this idea going nowhere and the stupid 150K want list limit certainly won't chase me away but I have the right to ask and hope.
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Always looking for Blackhawk hockey, Notre Dame Football, White Sox and Bears Stuff. I have a plaque in my card room that says, "I could have been a millionaire but my mom threw out my baseball cards". How apropos!!! Collecting Chicago Blackhawks Hockey, Doug Wilson Hockey, Chicago Bears Older, Notre Dame Football in their college jerseys and Chicago White Sox.
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vrooomed
Posts: 14,276
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| Tuesday, May 16, 2023 1:58 PM | |
You certainly do have the right to ask and hope, but understand when those of us who do understand coding and databases start asking questions, you'll need to have answers. And when you don't have answers, that's when the idea will stall and go nowhere.
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-- Dan -- Note: Please see my profile for more info regarding trading (section updated 10/25/2023). I have added a large portion of my inventory to the site, and currently have trading turned off (details are in my profile). I have (finally) unearthed my 2 very large boxes of Star Company minor league sets and they are available (email for details).
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hawkking
Posts: 899
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| Tuesday, May 16, 2023 2:51 PM | |
I knew I should have gone into computers instead of the airline business. Oh well.
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Always looking for Blackhawk hockey, Notre Dame Football, White Sox and Bears Stuff. I have a plaque in my card room that says, "I could have been a millionaire but my mom threw out my baseball cards". How apropos!!! Collecting Chicago Blackhawks Hockey, Doug Wilson Hockey, Chicago Bears Older, Notre Dame Football in their college jerseys and Chicago White Sox.
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PkPioneer72
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| Tuesday, May 16, 2023 3:27 PM | |
I wouldn't particularly care for this feature, but having done some database work in undergrad, I would imagine implementing this might look something like this: The secondaryTeam field could be added to every card and set to null and not visible by default. It would be up to the collectors who are into this kind of collecting to submit a request to an administrator to assign a team to the field and make that field visible. In the same way as you click an option in a set to see all of the rookie cards (cards with, True for RC [or however you all code that) you could create a query on a team page for "Jersey mismatch" and then that could pull up all of the cards with, for instance, "Notre Dame" in the secondaryTeam field and NOT "Notre Dame" in the Team field.
Sorry in advance if I have unduly simplified this incredibly complex database.
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