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wayneh59
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Joined: Aug 2020
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Thursday, May 27, 2021 12:09 AM | |
It's a hard 'No' for me.
IMHO, the prices are often outdated or wildly inaccurate.
--Wayne
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Yardbird38
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Joined: Apr 2021
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Saturday, July 16, 2022 6:59 AM | |
I'd like to revive this forum, and suggest admin. add pricing when composing a Transaction. It is only a reference, some use and others don't. If it is added it will benefit the ones who use it and the ones that don't can ignore it. Better yet build it so it can be turned on or off.
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myrke
Posts: 789
Joined: Aug 2020
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Saturday, July 16, 2022 7:16 AM | |
I still think that, if it is shown in a proposal, it will inevitably be referenced whether one chooses to use it as guidance or not and thus will influence a trade. Given that prices on TCDB are not currently accurate, I imagine that some pretty close trades will be bickered over perhaps more than they need to be, or at least there will be more conversations about why a card price from, say, 2018 is something that should still be credible or be considered an outlier.
As for turning it on or off, if one person leaves it on and the other person leaves it off, what then? Will the person who has left it on have more credibility about knowledge of the trade because they use uneven TCDB prices than the person who has a good feel of the trade? It all just gives me a bad feeling about the idea. However, if it's not already listed in the site enhancement proposal list, one should add it there for people to vote on because it's still an idea that people may want anyway.
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Yardbird38
Posts: 8
Joined: Apr 2021
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Saturday, July 16, 2022 7:45 AM | |
You make some very good points! It may have a negative impact on a trade, have not considered that. I would like to use it as a tool while offering a trade, maybe it can be available only when composing and not visible with the offer. What do you think?
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sandyrusty
Posts: 4,662
Joined: Dec 2014
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Saturday, July 16, 2022 7:58 AM | |
When someone tells me that they have used the pricing on this site to make a "fair" proposal, I go to sportslots and get real prices for the cards quickly showing that what is here is ridiculously out of whack. If the person still thinks that the pricing here is a good reference, I use my option to "Decline" the trade.
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Bolo_Mk_LX
Posts: 584
Joined: Jun 2016
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Saturday, July 16, 2022 8:15 AM | |
Fairest trade is still ---
You have what I need, I have what you need.....
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Sportzcommish
Posts: 6,019
Joined: Oct 2016
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Saturday, July 16, 2022 8:22 AM | |
Ditto. I can think of a handful of potential trades that ended up not happening due to what you're pointing out, Bru. This is a can of worms I wish to avoid.
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mzentko
Posts: 2,471
Joined: Jun 2012
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Saturday, July 16, 2022 8:34 AM | |
I do not want pricing at bottom of trade proposals either..
mark
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UWBone24
Posts: 57
Joined: Sep 2019
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Saturday, July 16, 2022 9:56 AM | |
Can't say i would, as the values on here aren't 100% accrate. UNless TCDB is going to incorporate and update true beckett value, or whoever determines that value, it's just not realistic.
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myrke
Posts: 789
Joined: Aug 2020
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Saturday, July 16, 2022 10:17 AM | |
That is something I can kind of agree with, but the trade still runs the risk of bumping into a "According the TCDB trade values that I see on my end..." discussion. As long as the person who sees the supposed trade totals understands that he/she may lose out on a trade due to what may look like an imbalance of quantity or 'worth-it-ness' to the other party, then fine. I agree with Bruno in that Sportlots or Ebay sold values are what I would prefer if I was stuck on the value of a trade.
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