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sfurukawa
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| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 10:16 PM | |
I collect quantity, only because most of what I want are cheaper cards. That being said, I'd love to trade my quantity for quality (even "low" quality). I've been able to do that a few times here, but understandably most people won't go for that type of trade.
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Always looking to trade to fill my PC: Stacey Augmon, Deion Sanders, Manute Bol, Damon Buford, Marcus Dupree, Rocket Ismail, Tony Mandarich, Harold Miner, Johnnie Morton, Christian Okoye, Bob Scanlan, and others. Romans 8:28
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FiresNBeers
Posts: 414
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| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 10:26 PM | |
I honestly think you are missing your own point. Too much of your perspective is coming down to value of a card. How about a real example versus your theory? Let's take a look at one of my Ersan Ilyasova autographed rookie cards (or any of Ersan's cards for that matter). Even though you would value my cards at minimum or no value, I can tell you right now, there isn't any money you have that could buy it from me. Does that make it a valuable card? Absolutely, to me. But according to your very narrow viewpoint, all my cards are worthless.
Now take a "high value" card, how about the Mantle rookie. That card is worthless to me. I have no use for it. I am not collecting Yankee players, his career was before I was collecting, and no disrespect to Mr. Mantle, he means nothing to me. If this card came across my desk, I would not want to put an offer on it at all. Does that make it worthless? Absolutely!! To me, that card is just the same as any other card that I do not collect.
To put a value on things is tough, but it should be left to the individuals that are making a trade or sale at the time a transaction is being made. Everything else does not mean anything.
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bpaul14
Posts: 256
Joined: Feb 2018
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| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 11:08 PM | |
Aside from the financial aspect of collecting, there's also a happiness side of collecting, too. Financial values of cards are secondary to me - I like to collect what I like to collect.
That being said, however, there are cards I own that bring more happiness and cards I own that really don't mean much to me at all. And since I prefer that happiness quality more, I'd like to winnow down my collection to a few thousand cards that bring me the most happiness (quality) and just stop the madness of acquiring more cards just because I can (quantity).
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rnocards
Posts: 106
Joined: Aug 2023
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| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 11:22 PM | |
FiresNBeers,
Thank you for your perspective. I don't know much about Ersan, but if he goes to the HOF, and his graded cards are fetching at least $100, then I will try to add him to my future collection.
A real example of a quality card, to me, would be the card I currently have on this site's collection. A HOF player, is graded by PSA, and it cost me like $200.
The 1952 Mantle rookie card is objectively, and by the overwhelming majority of the collectors market, considered a high quality and high value card. This card, along with the T206 Wagner card, has no real competition in the baseball marketplace.
And yes, whoever is posting here can decide on their own what their definition and standards are for Quantity vs Quality.
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FiresNBeers
Posts: 414
Joined: Aug 2018
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| Wednesday, August 30, 2023 1:20 AM | |
I again think you have missed my (and yours as well) point. Time to figure out your perspective.
Do you watch sports? Do you have a favorite team? Did you used to play? What about influences from family members, did you go with your family go to any ballgames? How do you evaluate a good player? Basically, what drew you to sports cards? If it is only the prospect of finding the highest dollar cards, great. But, what started you down this path?
It seems to me that you do not have any interest in collecting for pleasure, which is fine. But to minimize other's collections, just because the value for you isn't there, is irresponsible at best, and insulting at worst. I know it is not your intention. But please see some of the other collecting perspectives. I don't need to see a Hall of Fame listing to know that a certain player is good. I also don't need to have any sportswriter vote to tell me that there is a new player that I need to collect. Now my way to collect isn't the only way to collect either, many others set collect, which is great. Some team collect, which is great. Some collect backup catchers that have no vowels in their names. Also great!! Each is valuable in their own way.
If you would like to only collect graded copies of Hall of Famers, there is a place for you in this hobby. There is a place for everyone. But please do not look at my collection of the best players that I have personally ever seen play and dismiss them only because the do not fit into your definition of a quality card. Every one of my cards have a value, priceless.
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Mungo Hungo
Posts: 113
Joined: Apr 2020
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| Wednesday, August 30, 2023 1:47 AM | |
Fires did a good job explaining things. I hope his words get through.
I would just add that I've never really heard people dismiss specific cards as not "quality," except those that are in poor condition or massively overproduced. It just wouldn't make sense to do that, because, like Fires was saying, everyone has different tastes, and thus different wants. You might say that no card of Joe Shlabotnik is "quality," but I guarantee you that it would make the collecting year (or lifetime) of a certain bald, round-headed kid if he found one.
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I'd be eternally grateful to anyone who can help me find a 1998 Bryan Braves (non-perforated) Kerry Ligtenberg and a 2000 Nabisco Albertson's Astros Chris Truby. Last missing items in a 10,000-card "set."
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rnocards
Posts: 106
Joined: Aug 2023
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| Wednesday, August 30, 2023 1:59 AM | |
FiresNBeers,
It's awesome that you value your cards so much, and all the memories that you have connected to your cards.
I grew up watching the Padres, and Tony Gwynn is my favorite baseball player. But, there is like over 13k cards of Gwynn, and I'm trying to narrow it down to the highest quality and most valuable. I also like HOFers in general, including your player Robin Yount, and prefer to begin collecting them as graded copies for authenticity.
My preferences are always changing, but at this time, I would like to focus on what I consider Quality graded cards of at least $100 in value. This could change tomorrow.
I don't wish to collect for the sake of collecting, so I don't think I'm a Quantity guy. I wish to collect for the sake of building value for the future, which in this case, involves sports that I like, and have liked as a kid... baseball, football, and basketball.
In life, I also collect other stuff, which I enjoy, and also try to build value for the future.
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rnocards
Posts: 106
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| Wednesday, August 30, 2023 2:13 AM | |
Mungo Hungo,
Typically, those massively overproduced modern junk era cards, I would consider cheap non-quality cards. And if those cards were in poor condition, I would basically consider them trash.
But any card, vintage or modern, if they are graded, and have a market value of at least $100, I will consider that a Quality card.
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rnocards
Posts: 106
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| Wednesday, August 30, 2023 3:02 AM | |
Oh, and that reference to Joe Shlabotnik, haha... well, Lucy threw that card in the trash, so that's the end of that.
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Edited on: Aug 30, 2023 - 3:03AM
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myrke
Posts: 697
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| Wednesday, August 30, 2023 5:58 AM | |
I collect quantity over expensive cards because the quantity is attainable, represents a team I like, and doesn't break the bank. There's more art to appreciate, more stats to mull over, and more facts to read. I also am not a fan of graded cards and feel their values are massively inflated, so I don't wish to go that route with my collection. To each their own, of course!
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