General Forum

I just want to make sure that I did this correctly. The following Ronnie Lott card, shows him in his Raiders uniform. It has no team listed on the card, other than in the bio, where it mentions him playing for the Raiders, and then mentions signed with NY Jets as a Free Agent. The team in the database, was listed as the Los Angeles Raiders. I changed the team listed in the database to the New York Jets. Was I correct, or should I change it back. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

https://www.tcdb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/3381/cid/870413/1993-Upper-Deck-58-Ronnie-Lott 

Thank You,

Paul

Based on the Team Hierarchy from FAQ, I believe the associated Team should be the New York Jets due to the back of the card stating: "... Signed as a free agent with the Jets..." which corresponds to #1 in the heriarchy associated with professional uniforms, "Use team in any "Traded to, Signed with, Now with, etc." statement printed on the card".

Actually, that's not a statement (as in a specified spot for noting team changes), it's a blurb in the bio.

According to our documentation, it should be a Raiders card.

I misspoke in my first post. I said that I had changed the team. I actually sent in an IR.

Thanks for clarification, Dan. I suggest we add "(not in biographical write-up)" to #1 as we have in #4 [Use team name printed prominently on back of card (not in biographical write-up)].

Dan,

   I do have one more question for clarification regarding this. There is no team listed on the card at all, other than in the Bio. After double checking the rules on level 2. It says nothing about this scenario(that I saw), where there are no teams listed, and only the picture of the player in his old uniform. 

   I am not campaigning one way or the other, I just want to make sure that I have it listed correctly in my collection.

Thanks again,

Paul

My perspective: based on the the subject of the card (including the writeup) these cards represent the previous season's (1992) Hit Men. His writeup talks about why his tackling with the Raiders in 1992 made him a Hit Man.

And to add to what Dan said, the typical Trade Statements are usually post-production changes. They have cards (plates) set for production and a player changes teams. So they make simple, easy to do changes like adding a line of text.

Beyond what Chuck says, the hierarchy here stops at Uniform pictured because there is no team listed anywhere on the card. What is written in bio blurbs never counts. The bio blurb could have talked about his college team. Unless there is a spot that has "Team: [xxx]" or offset from the bio "Signed with [xxx]" or "Traded to [xxx]", it reverts to the pictured uniform rule.

(edited to fix a typo - 'ate' should have been 'at')

Thank You, to all for the clarification.

On a personal note, I hate having cards in my team binders that show another team's uniforms and logos.  Regardless of "Trade Statements" I will usually leave them out of my binders.