General Forum

Hello all, I have recently noticed a very large decline in my TOTAL $ (mostly from Baseball since that is the bulk of my collection) in the last week that seems very odd based on my historical data in the platform.  I have witnessed this dollar amount drop by more than $4000 in just days and cannot figure out why there is such a disparity.  I get  a couple hundred dollar swings especially from new product where the average price can fluctuate a lot quickly, however, I have not added anything recently that would warrant such a dip.  Can anyone help me understand how to find out, please and thank you?

Additionally, would it be ok to ask for a platform feature request to show arrow ups and arrow downs for pricing per card just like the old school paper Beckett's showed us years ago.....OR, a way to see under a different tab what cards have jumped up or down each month?  

If not, I am ok with that....just wanted some clarification.  Thank you all for all you do to make this such a great tool for our hobby! 

Dan Riggs

Sportslots prices are now automatically being inputted into the system, generally bringing down prices across the board. 

https://www.tcdb.com/Forum.cfm/Page/G/ID/0/?MODE=VIEW&ThreadID=37940&C=75

The value of your cards really hasn't changed, but the site's calculation of their value has changed if that makes sense. 

I'm not a fan of the new automated pricing as it makes most cards all worth the same amount. There's less of a guide (however innacurate) for trades in my opinion. 

Recent changes have been implemented to pricing from a strategic partnership with Sportlots using historical data. You can read more here [1, 2]. For any new feature requests, you can propose them here [3].

[1] https://www.tcdb.com/FeatureTracker.cfm?MODE=VIEW&ID=353&PageIndex=1

[2] https://www.sportlots.com/global/globalbin/SL_TCDb.tpl

[3] https://www.tcdb.com/FeatureTracker.cfm

Look up the thread discussing the team up between SportsLots.com and TCDB.  What I've found is that a lot of prices lately are importing over from sportslots (I haven't used sportslots so I don't know what has gone the other way).  In most of the cases I've seen it is adjusting commons down to what are reasonable expectations for price.  I am finding a few vintage (pre 1980) cards that have dropped far lower than I can find them for on ebay, but appearntly these are prices people have paid on sportslot for those cards.

I'm wondering if people on ebay who use this site as a priceguide (and I know there are people out there who do this) will start dropping their prices accordingly?

"I'm not a fan of the new automated pricing as it makes most cards all worth the same amount" - Plevin

Can you or someone else expand on this?  How exactly is it making most cards worth the same?  Can you point me to any examples?

I guess it's just a sense that in a lot of sets, star cards and rookie cards are now the same price as commons because if it's ever sold for $0.18 on Sportlots, the price has been brought down. I could be wrong, but it doesn't appear that there's consideration being made for weighing outlier prices differently or weighing recent vs. older sales differently. If a card was snagged cheaply on Sportlots once, that will drag down its price for perpetuity, especailly for parallel cards produced in lower numbers snd with fewer sales.

All that being said, I collect Orioles cards including their forgettable years, so I'm obviosuly not in this to make a buck!  :D 

I was probably relying too much on tcdb prices before in trades, so I'll just have to amend how I do things. For the record, overall I really love both tcdb and sportlots as collecting resources. 

This is a guess, but with the default low value of $0.18 on Sportlots, I imagine that would make nearly every common from 1982-present or so the same value compared to what they're currently listed as on here. I see a lot $0.05 for 80s Topps while I think modern commons are listed for a little more. Sportlots involvement might be making those low-end cards more equal, even if that 80s era is considered worth more like pennies than dimes.

Ahhh, yes.  Now this makes sense.  I missed that thread when it was posted.  We are receiving a feed from SportsLots that is providing a different algorithm or statistical data, based on THEIR crawling information.  Correct?  This clarifies a bit for me and makes me feel better that my collection value is not "tanking" but being valuated in a different manner.  

My purpose for being part of the platform was more for inventory and set completion as opposed to estimated value.  The estimated value part was just a bit of a bonus.  Thank you all for the clarification.  

This sounds like it would be at least one step closer toward moving prices here in line with what cards actually sell for in reality even if the price of commons is still up to question.

What I think we saw a lot of on this site is people just didn't price for commons however once in a while you'd find some crazy one off sale where someone spent $1 on a common card for whatever reason.  If someone enters in that price because it's the only ebay sale found, it would show the price at $1.  In comes sportlots prices and the card adjusts down to what it actually should be because they actually have lower common prices and more frequent sales of lower end cards.

We should be including the + shipping amount on the sales to stay consistent with the policies here for recording values. Not combining, just listing both pieces of the transaction.