General Forum

First, let me preface the below experience by saying,  I really enjoy trading here!  With the help of
many great trading partners, I have completed over 200 sets in my 4 years here.  I consider
myself to be a patient, conscientious, and respectful trader.  I respect traders, that take their time, to
send their cards, using their money, to trade with me.  That's why I don't believe a trade is complete,
until feedback is left. It's a sign of affirmation, appreciation, and respect.  Dont get me wrong, there are
times I have received chewed up PWEs, damaged cards, or no cards at all.  Poor packaging, damaged cards, 
lost trades-I'veworked all of those out in the transaction manager, no need to make that part of feedback.  
I've made 1021 trades here and I've left 1021 positive feedbacks.  That's why I'm having a hard time with 
this trade.

I recently made a trade that began a month ago, 2/19.  The trade involved 36/37 cards, so both parties
sent in bubble mailer.  I mailed mine same day, 2/19, and left a transaction message with tracking number.
He received his cards on 2/24 and marked "package received".  I sent a transaction message on 2/24 asking
for my tracking number, which he sent.  I sent another transaction message to thank him and explained that
I had several issues with trades coming from the east coast, particularly going through DC, PA, and NJ.
I started checking on my package 3/3.  It had arrived in the "black hole" of Pennsylvania on 2/27, but had
not moved since.  On 3/6, I sent a transaction message letting him know and said he might want to send an
inquiry to USPS.  I received no response, so on 3/8, I went to my local PO to put in an inquiry and met with a 
supervisor there.  She was able to see online that a whole container of packages had arrived on 2/27 and had 
not moved.   She sent an email to the Lehigh Pennsylvania PO, hoping to get things moving.  On 3/9, I sent a 
message to the trader letting him know what l found out, telling him the supervisor said it would help if he also 
send an inquiry in.  I got no response.  Later that day, 3/9, my package began moving, and finally arrived on
3/11, thanks to the local PO supervisor.  No communication from the other trader but the one on 2/24 with 
tracking number.
When I opened the package, everything was protected, and I began checking them off the transaction list.
Unfortunately, I was missing two cards, and an extra card was sent.  So, that night, 3/11, I sent a message, 
letting the trader know I'd like to get the missing cards and about the extra card.  No response.  He was on the
site several days, so I know he saw the message.  On 3/16, I sent a message and asked if he had mailed the 
two missingcards, that I wanted nothing more than what was agreed upon, and that I'd like a response.

Still no response, so this morning I let him know that I'd wait until 3/31 for the missing cards before taking
any action.

Any one see how this could end in a positive way??

BobbyL

It might help if you mentioned his name.  That might get him on the defensive, and he might send them, just to save face.

sounds like you have handled it well with being patient, but giving him a deadline

I would post negative feedback on 3-31 if you don't hear anything back,

It is a shame he will not answer.  That bothers me way more than missing card or two.

mark

Thanks Mark.  I learned a lot about trading and patience during my early Tradingbases days. Kevin was the best and the group had so many wonderful traders.  Mr. Owen Sterner, one of my favorites, shared a lot about respect, integrity, and treating folks the way you want to be treated-even trading ball cards.

Switzr1--I'm hoping names don't have to be mentioned. Hopefully, he'll mail the cards.  If the 31st deadline passes with no resolution, I will post a "BEWARE" notice with his info then.

mzentko wrote:

sounds like you have handled it well with being patient, but giving him a deadline

I would post negative feedback on 3-31 if you don't hear anything back,

It is a shame he will not answer.  That bothers me way more than missing card or two.

mark

Ghosting or not responding is way worse then getting a disappointing response.  It's simple to say, hey I lost the cards or I made an error in my listing, or I've been busy with work or personal life.  Even if it's a false excuse to buy yourself a little time is better than no response at all.  Not responding or ghosting is kinda like a "eff you, I don't care."  I get it, people have busy lives, but not responding with in 3-4 days especially when you receive multiple messages is just rude.

That's a tuff one I would leave a neutral feedback and state is communication stinks. The good thing about that if he/ she ticks you off you still have time to change it to a negative if needed.  
I too have had traders fill in with extra cards with a note that they could not locate the card or sent me a message so I know what card(s) to add back to my want list.  

This is the reason I like to make sure I have the cards in hand before agreeing to the trade but with me working out of town (way out) for 2 weeks I will also say I will agree to the trade with the understanding if I can not locate the card we will work out replacements together and time allows me to pull a couple of extras for appreciation of the trade if I have more of his/ hers wants

honestly.. Unless its a big money card.. Get over it & move on.

There is a lot of things that play out here. How many cards was there, in this case 36 or 37 (going to go by the lower number). You were missing 2/36 cards or about 5% of the trade. Since it was a smaller trade and you were not missing more than 10% of cards I do not think this warrants negative feedback. Only because everything else went fine. The no response maybe because they have something going on because of life. You also didn't say the last active they have been so that doesn't help. I would say leave a neutral response stating the issue you had. I would also look at if they have other similar issues. If they do upgrade it to negative. If they don't leave it neutral.

People who are clearly active on the site and just can't be bothered to respond to messages really annoy me. In this case I would personally still give positive feedback bc it appears as though they tried to make up for the missing cards. My comment would include something like 'communication leaves a little to be desired'. At the end of the day the outcome of the trade was still a positive one even though the person is a bit of an ass for not responding to you at all. I understand people have lives and things come up but if you are active on the site for days and just cant be bothered to reply to your messages that is ignorant.

If you have felt you had a negative trade experience then post negative feedback.  That is what the system is there for.  You do not have to adhere to anyone else's standards for this.