General Forum

Do some research on Jackson . He was ACQUITTED in the UNITED STATES COURT SYSTEM of any wrongdoings in the '19 series 

As I've gotten older and more wise of the world my stance has changed.  I am no longer against keeping out users of Performance "allegedly" Enhancing Drugs.  Given the rampant use of amphetamines in the 50s and 60s plus the abuse of Rx drugs by current players, there's no longer a valid argument for keeping them out.

Also, the arbritary determination of which medical treatments are allowed and not allowed further blurs the line.

As much as I think its pretty cut and dry that the PED guys shouldnt't be in, (and no, I don't think "greenies" are the same thing. not remotely close.) If the veterans committee votes them in I have little issue with it. There peers would be the best judges of their candidacy.

Historically the veterans committte was the worst judge of a players value with former players being responsible for most of the worst elections.  And yes, amphetamines are proven to help an athlete - increased engery for a game and enhance alertness, unlike many of the so called PEDs.  

Always felt that way or has your stance changed over the years on it? 

Should Rose be in the HOF?   Yes.  Should Bonds?  Yes.  Should McGwire?  Yes.  Should   Shoeless Joe Jackson?  Yes.  Until these yuppies who vote go back and look at each one of these that contributed to the game, they need to reconsider their voting.

Rose and Joe Jackson would need to be removed from baseball's banned list first 

Clemens too? 

McGwire for HOF? He had a solid rookie campaign and two huge HR-hitting seasons in St. Louis. But...

.263 regular season BA; .217 BA in 42 Postseason games.

Almost as many career strikeouts as hits; 1/3 of his total hits were HRs.

Then look at where his RBI total stacks up vs. other 500 HR members.

Only 1 gold Glove, no MVP.

Popular, yes - but productive?

I think it's ridiculous that Bonds and Clemens are not in the HOF.  Numbers don't lie.  And both have them. And they had them before they were alleged to have taken steroids