General Forum

I probably shouldn't do this and I'm sure I'll catch flak because of it but:  my #1 pet peeve about this site, or more accurately about some of the members is declining a trade proposal with no counter, no comment, no message, no reason given for declining. It has happened to me now several times over the past couple months. And I'm not talking about people who just don't trade...if I see they don't trade, I don't make a proposal to them...no problem, I understand what they are here for. These proposals are to people who have traded, have logged on within the past few days, and are fairly active in trading. C'mon guys, we're all friends on here with a definite common purpose...card collecting. If you decline, tell me why. If you're in a hurry, it doesn't take that much longer to type in your reason. I can take it if you just don't like me, just say "you suck", ok, no problem. "I don't think that's a fair trade", "I decided I don't want to trade away those cards anymore or I don't want those cards anymore" "I've got a lot going on right now, I'm declining all trades for a while" whatever. If I decline an offer (very rare) I explain why to the other member. It just seems like common courtesy to me.

OK, sorry, just had to get that off my chest.

I agree with you completely. I think it would be common courtesy of members to explain why they are declining the trade. That way, the person who proposed the trade has an idea as to why the person is doing other trades, but not that particular trade.

CollectorKing23

In the past year, I have found that the enjoyment of trading here has declined, not because I haven't had some great trades (including I think two with you) but the lack of respect some others show in either as you say, not communicating when declining, publically asking for trades and then not even responding when one is proposed, or sending some ridiculous trade offers.  You and I aren't the only ones as I have heard it form others who expressed similar issues.  I have had my Trading off for almost a month now and am not missing these issues.  In the New Year, I will look for trades but I will be more selective on who I make an offer to or who I accept one from.

Of course, I would gladly trade with you again, just not sure if we have accumulate many more matches.

Mike, I agree with you - and I'm hoping I've not done that to you. I don't normally decline an offer, but I have recently, and I try to give a reason for it.

I'm with you, too, Bru, as we've discussed before there have been some "negotiations" that have ended in me starting a No Trade List despite having multiple matches.

I really believe we're dealing more with bigger problems that transcend the hobby including a lack of civility, negotiation skills, and seeking mutual satisfaction. As King Solomon once stated, "There is noting new under the sun," it's seemingly just getting worse.

Excellent Discussion that is ongoing here!  Agree with each of You about the complaint concerning those that utilize this Site, with very little in the way of contributing to the TCDB Community.  As far as the Site itself, IT STILL IS THE MOST AMAZING Trading Card Community that is on the World Wide Web!!

Yours in The Hobby - Felix

One word via numbers ....................... 2020.

I'm guilty of declining trades with no commentary in way of explanation.

I have received a number of offers seeking a card or two from a dozen different sets in return for a handful of 1991 Upper Deck baseball cards.  Nothing wrong with someone asking for what they want.  And maybe shame on me for putting those 91UD cards on my want list thinking I'd complete another set. 

Now I don't have multiple rooms of cards, but I do have my collection stored across a number of boxes.   There's no way for someone to know that their request for 20 cards translates to me pulling them from 10 different boxes.  And it really shouldn't inhibit them from proposing such a trade.  But when that level of time & effort needs to go into a transaction for some cards that aren't worth a fraction of the price of the postage to ship them, I sometimes pause.  If I really needed these cards, I'm sure I could get them at my LCS and the owner would probably thank me for taking them off his hands.

Occasionally I will comment that I'm not really pursuing those cards, but truth is if I could get them in one fell swoop I'd probably do it just to close them off the list.  To take them in piecemeal just doesn't feel worth the effort.  So rather than insult someone I will quietly decline.  To those I have done that to, I apologize.

i try to reply to every trade rejection but sometimes life gets in the way.

 I would love to spend hours countering and looking at your (not you but your as a whole) collection(s), but I work and have to take care of the family and this is a hobby.  

Yes, I'm onlline here almost daily, but it takes time to pull cards for trade and time to review and counter.  

Some trades are just so lopsided. like let me send you 30 random cards in a pwe for your don mattingly rookie card that a response just isn't warranted.  I would love to browse your collection to see what is a reasonable trade, but I just dont have time to do the research. (sidebar: have cards on your FS/FT list if you want someone to counter)

This is why I rarely propose trades on the site.  When I do, you bet I've spent time looking at your collection to see what matches with what I am offering, or my offer matches what you have. 

I also agree with this, as it literally JUST hapened to me.  I presented the trade in early November and saw the member logged on everyday with no repsonse.  I waited patiently as I really wanted the card that I was seeking.  Just got a notification that it was declined with no reason why.  SMH... oh well.  There are ALOT of good traders on here who make up for those that don't respond.  

I like that some people put out priorities on their profile page...I think sandy does this (without looking to confirm) it helps to know what a person prefers. I have thousands on my wantlist that are not really priorities just glad to get them. Perhaps adding a disclaimer like you just put here, OCHawkeye, would help eliminate a percentage of those offers. I often get "here's a bunch of 91 Score you want, can I have ten Griffey inserts?" If I can't make a better match I just say yes because it's stuff I want for stuff I don't want. My favorite type of trade is "here are ten I want, pick a bunch you want" ... I think even just saying, "swamped at the moment can you offer again in a month or two" would help. I always feel like I've offended someone in an offer when they don't reply with anything (only happened two times I think but i dont propose too many).