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Ronald Acuna, Mookie Betts, Matt Olson, Freddie Freeman-MVP candidates 

Due to over production the basic answer is "none" unless it is a low numbered card. Paying five dollars for a pack and holding onto a card from it for 50 years that will one day be worth 12$ isn't a reason to think you have an asset. Collect who you like. Invest in real estate or dying artists.

Because I love the investing aspect of the hobby so much, please let go with Franco!!!! Acuna is already overpriced as it is and will crash at some point. Historic season, absolutely, $100s for a heavily produced card though???

BTW, I'm not in it for investing, so I care less

Well I agree real estate might be a good asset based on type, location and cost.

My thought is what is overproduction? That means different things to different people.  people think the less of something the better. That is not always true. Markets need collectors and investors to keep the place liquid

How do we know production? (Suppose some can get estimates by some methods)

How do we know future demand?

Most cards are generational and seem to be declining in market cap as gaps are always shrinking however younger generations are eager to acquire old school cards to them.

In my view, The internet will continue to change how card markets work and expand and create potential expansion. 

I could probably write a book with what I could see happening. However no crystal balls here and I don't share or give investment advice:)

I mostly agree with the point that modern base RCs don't appear to be good investments.  Too many have been printed, and (unless toploaders are slowly, undetectably destroying our cards) most will remain in pack-fresh condition for decades to come.  It's not like a vintage high-numbered HOF RC that there weren't many copies of from the beginning, and many were flipped/rubber-banded/bicycle-spoked or thrown out by parents.

Grading creates artificial scarcity - especially for high-grade, low-pop cards.  For every PSA10 Mike Trout US175 in the registry, there are probably a hundred raw copies (at least a few of which would gem if the owner wished to have them graded) and plenty still hiding in sealed product.  If I wanted to invest in modern players (and had an unlimited budget), I'd seek out a numbered parallel of their flagship RCs.

As someone who collected mainly during the glory days of such hoarded rookies as Jose Canseco, Wally Joyner and B.J. Surhoff, all I can say is those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

I have those cards in my collection. Want to get a canseco or 2 more in raw format. Those guys where alot of fun in the heyday you can watch them on videos. However I don't see them making the hall.

I am a very odd 🦆 I don't view those as worthless and each card has its own market cap. 

I also don't view all or most cards worthless: as someone somewhere likes that player, maybe a relative, people trying to complete a set, maybe the card just looks super cool. Even if that player might be considered a common.

Rookie cards are bad if they turn out as busts ofc there is hope in a very tiny few who may reach the HOF if they are considered a GOAT but in my view the money is not in the RC (even thou it may be the most liquid market) 

Collectors are odd ducks as they collect what they like.

https://www.youtube.com/@scottiebcards2354/videos

Scottie B does breakdowns on print runs. An example is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5rFpc0O9j8

Most modern stuff is over produced and may not be as rare as you think..

I'd much rather "invest" in vintage versus anything new.

This investment thought boggles my mind.  I’m first to admit I’m not a super intelligent person, but from what I’ve witnessed you make your money on cards in a limited amount of ways.  1. You pull a super hot card near release day and sell it ASAP.  2.  The player retires/expires/elected to HOF and you can prob dump it at its peak.  ( probably hundreds not thousands or tens of thousands of dollars) 3. You find a 52 or 56 mantle whatever it is that’s been mummified in an attic since it was pulled from pack and auction it.  IDK.  if I had the start up capital to dump 30-50k in hot new product and pull some great cards then flip them and rinse and repeat maybe…but I don’t see college tuition/retirement type investing in cards.  I do have a lot of fun and probably in a lot of people’s minds-my wife included waste a good amount of money having fun with this hobby…but it is what it is…I was hoping to what I consider splurge on a JV RC at the northern national this past weekend but there wasn’t a JV to be found…I didn’t contribute to statsnerds original question but thought I’d respond anyway.  Anyone reading this…have fun with the hobby this weekend…if you’re planning your retirement or just wasting money 😀